Picard iteration on systems of DEs

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The problem involves a system of differential equations defined by u' = v and v' = -u, with initial conditions u(0) = 1 and v(0) = 0. The objective is to find an approximate solution using Picard iteration and compare it with the actual solution.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Picard iteration but expresses uncertainty about extending the method to a system of equations. They share their initial calculations and seek clarification on their approach.
  • Some participants question the original poster's neglect of the variable v in their calculations and provide corrections to the iterative process.
  • Others suggest a step-by-step approach to clarify the iteration process for both u and v.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing corrections and clarifications. There is a productive exchange of ideas, with some participants offering guidance on the correct application of Picard iteration for the system of equations.

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The original poster expresses frustration with their results compared to a book answer, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the method. There is also mention of forum etiquette regarding post frequency.

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Homework Statement



For the system
u' = v, v' = −u
with initial conditions u(0) = 1 and v(0) = 0, find an approximate solution by
performing 4 steps of Picard iteration. Compare the results with the actual solution.

Homework Equations



In general:

y'= f(x,y), y(x0)= y0

y(x) = y(x0) + \int f(t,y(t)) .dt with x and x0 the upper and lower points of the integral (couldn't work out how to format this in)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know how to do picard iteration for a single first-order equation but don't know how to extend it to systems. To be honest my attempt is probably so far off it's not worth writing but here it is anyway.

u(t) = (x0) + \int v(s)ds with t and t0 the upper and lower points of the integral (I won't write this below but these will always be the lower and upper points). As v0 = 0 I proceed as follows:

u0 = 1 + \int 0ds = 1
u1 = 1 + \int 1.ds = 1 + t
u2 = 1 + \int(1 + s)ds = 1 + t + t2/2

etc.

I'm way off the answer given in the book. Please someone offer a rough explanation!

Thanks
 
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What you have done is wrong because you have neglected the "v" after the first step.
u_n= u_0+ \int v_{n-1}dx and v_n= v(0)- \int u_{n-1}dx
u(0)= 1 and v(0)= 0 so the first step gives
u_1(x)= 1+ \int 0dx= 1, v_(x)= 0- \int 1dx= -x.

Now, the second step:
u_2(x)= 1+ \int -xdx= 1- (1/2)x^2, v_2(x)= 0- \int 1 dx= -x

Third step:
u_3(x)= 1+ \int -x dx= 1- (1/2)x^2, v_3= 0- \int 1-(1/2)x^2 dx= -x+ (1/6)x^3
 
Thanks very much for your help, I get it now. I'm sorry about bumping I didn't know it was against the rules. I won't do it again.
 

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