Pitch of sound: Elasticity vs Tension of string

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of tension and elasticity of a guitar string on the frequency of sound produced when the string is struck. Participants explore the relationship between these factors and how they influence pitch, particularly in the context of musical instruments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that elasticity positively affects the speed of sound and the natural frequency of the chord but questions its impact on the frequency of sound produced when struck.
  • Another participant asserts that tension is proportional to elasticity, suggesting a relationship between the two factors.
  • A different perspective indicates that the frequency of sound depends on the string's length, tension, and linear density, with the latter being fixed once the string is installed. This participant emphasizes that elasticity (Young's Modulus) relates to the material of the string and affects how much tension is needed but does not directly determine the frequency of the note once the string is tuned.
  • This participant also mentions that different materials, which have varying elasticities, can affect the timbre of the sound produced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of elasticity in determining the frequency of sound. While some suggest it has a significant role, others argue that once the string is tuned, elasticity does not directly affect the frequency of the note produced. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise impact of elasticity on sound frequency.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the relationship between tension, elasticity, and frequency, as well as the definitions of terms like "timbre" and "natural frequency." The discussion does not resolve how these factors interact in practical scenarios.

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Hi there,

I saw this question in a book. Basically, we are asked to comment on the effects of Tension of a guitar chord and the Elasticity of the chord itself on the frequency of the sound the guitar produces.

I understand Elasticity will have a positive effect on the speed of sound, and the natural frequency of the chord itself, but will it have any effect on the frequency of sound produced when the guitar chord is struck?

I fully understand that the bigger the applied tension, the higher pitch the sound will be. But elasticity stumps me...quick frankly.

Can fellow forummers help me pls? I am a high school Science teacher... :confused:
 
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Tension is proportional to the elasticity.
 
I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but there are 2 ways of looking at this.
The frequency of the sound the string produces will depend on a) its length, b) tension and c) linear density (mass per unit length)
Once you have a string on the instrument, you can't change c) so that for practical purposes, the note you get depends only on a) and b)
You adjust b) to tune up and then it's only a) that matters.
The elasticity, on the other hand, (Youngs Modulus) depends on the material you use. Steel wires have a higher value than, say, copper. (Though copper isn't normally used!)
Once you have the wire on the guitar and tuned up, the elasticity of the wire itself doesn't determine the frequency of the note. It does, on the other hand, determine how much you have to turn the tuning key to get the right tension. (Effectively, the extension needed to create the right tension. This is what post 2 above is alluding to.).
Wires made from different materials (and therefore having a different elasticity) will give the sound produced a different timbre, but that would be difficult to quantify.
Hope this helps.
 
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Thanks Stonebridge for the reply.I see the problem is more of being logically coherent...
 

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