Please explain this limit problem

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The discussion revolves around understanding a limit problem, specifically focusing on the initial steps leading to the final result. Participants are examining the sum of natural numbers and how certain steps in the derivation are executed.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the method of summing natural numbers and explore grouping techniques. Questions arise regarding the transition from summing up to 'n' to summing up to 'n-1', with some seeking clarification on the reasoning behind this step.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the grouping method for summing natural numbers. Some have expressed understanding of certain steps, while others are still questioning specific transitions in the problem setup.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the notation and the steps taken in the limit problem, particularly concerning the replacement of 'n' with 'n-1'.

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Please explain the above limit problem.i am able to understand last steps but can't get initial 4 steps.
 

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The sum of natural numbers 1 to N. Is that the part you are confused about?
Let's do an example. Say you want to add the numbers 1 to 10. You can group them: Take the first number and the last number (1 + 10) then 2nd number and next to last (2 + 9), then (3 + 8) etc. Each grouping adds to 11 {N+1}. There are 5 groupings {N/2}. So in general, we have (N + 1) * (N/2). This works with odd N values as well.
 
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scottdave said:
The sum of natural numbers 1 to N. Is that the part you are confused about?
Let's do an example. Say you want to add the numbers 1 to 10. You can group them: Take the first number and the last number (1 + 10) then 2nd number and next to last (2 + 9), then (3 + 8) etc. Each grouping adds to 11. There are 5 groupings. So in general, we have (N + 1) * (N/2). This works with odd N values as well.
This trick is something interesting to know about. I will remember it.appreciate your help :smile::smile:
 
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rishi kesh said:
This trick is something interesting to know about. I will remember it.appreciate your help :smile::smile:
But of you look at the 4th step they replaced 'n' by n-1 ..how do that work?
 
rishi kesh said:
But of you look at the 4th step they replaced 'n' by n-1 ..how do that work?
The comment appears to be misplaced. The replacement occurs one step above, going from ##\sum_{r=1}^n## to ##\sum_{r=1}^{n-1}##.
 
DrClaude said:
The comment appears to be misplaced. The replacement occurs one step above, going from ##\sum_{r=1}^n## to ##\sum_{r=1}^{n-1}##.
Oh i got it. :)
 

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