Is Your Heavy Rock with a Brown Streak a Meteorite?

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The discussion centers on identifying a heavy rock with a brown streak, suspected to be a meteorite. Participants suggest that the rock may actually be iron slag from a furnace, particularly due to its weight and the lack of specific meteorite features such as scalloped areas. The need for clearer photographs and more precise geographical information from the finder in southwest Missouri is emphasized to aid in identification. Additionally, methods such as sectioning, polishing, and acid etching to reveal a Widmanstätten pattern are recommended for accurate classification.

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I recently found this rock...it is very heavy, leaves a distinct brown mark on unfinished white tile, and was quite difficult to cut a piece off from a corner. Could it be a meteorite? Please reach me at [personal e-mail deleted by a Mentor]
I recently found this rock...it is very heavy, leaves a distinct brown mark on unfinished white tile, and was quite difficult to cut a piece off from a corner. Could it be a meteorite? Please reach me at [personal e-mail deleted by a Mentor]
 

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Welcome to PF. We deleted your e-mail from your post since it attracts spam bots and other bad things. :smile:

Can you say where you are geographically in the world? That will help @davenn with his detective work.
 
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berkeman said:
Welcome to PF. We deleted your e-mail from your post since it attracts spam bots and other bad things. :smile:

Can you say where you are geographically in the world? That will help @davenn with his detective work.

There is a still an email addy there ...end of first line of summary :wink:
 
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millzee said:
I recently found this rock...it is very heavy, leaves a distinct brown mark on unfinished white tile, and was quite difficult to cut a piece off from a corner. Could it be a meteorite?

Hi there Keith,
welcome to PF

collecting meteorites is a pretty serious hobby of mine

Initial thoughts is that it looks like a lump if iron slag from a furnace.
the photos are a bit dark, so hard to make a good visual analysis
Please redo the 3rd and 4th photos again, outside in natural light and with the 4th photo get in a bit closer :smile:

But as @berkeman says, please tell us where you found it and I can have a look and see if there were any known
iron met's in that area

cheers
Dave
 
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millzee said:
it is very heavy, leaves a distinct brown mark on unfinished white tile, and was quite difficult to cut a piece off from a corner.

Sounds more like a piece of slag. Does it have vesicles? (Little holes, like it underwent extreme heat)
 
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davenn said:
Hi there Keith,
welcome to PF

collecting meteorites is a pretty serious hobby of mine

Initial thoughts is that it looks like a lump if iron slag from a furnace.
the photos are a bit dark, so hard to make a good visual analysis
Please redo the 3rd and 4th photos again, outside in natural light and with the 4th photo get in a bit closer :smile:

But as @berkeman says, please tell us where you found it and I can have a look and see if there were any known
iron met's in that area

cheers
Dave

would iron slag hold a magnet?
 
davenn said:
Hi there Keith,
welcome to PF

collecting meteorites is a pretty serious hobby of mine

Initial thoughts is that it looks like a lump if iron slag from a furnace.
the photos are a bit dark, so hard to make a good visual analysis
Please redo the 3rd and 4th photos again, outside in natural light and with the 4th photo get in a bit closer :smile:

But as @berkeman says, please tell us where you found it and I can have a look and see if there were any known
iron met's in that area

cheers
Dave

I found it in southwest missouri...would iron slag hold a magnet?
 
“southwest missouri” is a bit vague. Use google Earth to locate the site. Give us the latitude and longitude.

What was the situation, did you find it in a stream bed, lying on the surface of a ploughed field, or in the roots of a fallen tree?

What other similar rocks were around there? Was there any bedrock visible?
 
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. Does it have vesicles?
 
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millzee said:
I found it in southwest missouri...would iron slag hold a magnet?

usually but not always, does your sample stick to a magnet ?

Again, please redo the photos I asked for and answer @Vanadium 50 's question on vesicles

The thing that really puts me off thinking that you have an iron meteorite is that it totally lacks
scalloped areas, rather your one has lumps...

1615322328661.png


here's a couple of my iron meteorites
They show features that can only happen with a hot flight through the atmosphere...

#072 NWA859 (Taza) Iron c.jpg


SA159-4A.jpg


Dave
 
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millzee said:
I found it in southwest missouri

As some one else said ... just a bit vague, there are 3 known iron meteorite fall locations in the greater SW Missouri
So again, be a bit more accurate on the location :smile:
 
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davenn said:
it totally lacks scalloped areas, rather your one has lumps

I'm having a hard time telling lumps from dents. Much less regna...regma...regmalith...regmagl...oh, to heck with it!
 
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Could you section it, polish and acid etch it? Widmanstatten pattern? Or EDX it and report the Ni content?
 
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chemisttree said:
Could you section it, polish and acid etch it? Widmanstatten pattern?

This of course is the best test for any possible iron meteorite
Something like 98-99% will show a Widmanstatten pattern after a surface is cut, polished and etched

#028 Seymchan, Russia b.jpg


The other 1% are Ataxite irons which have a very smooth interior after being polished and will
show occasional sulphide inclusions

#144 Dronino Ataxite Russia b.jpg
 
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