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The discussion focuses on solving the differential equation y'' - 16y = 2e^4x. The user has correctly identified the homogeneous solution but struggles with finding the particular solution, initially trying yp = ae^4x. Since e^4x is part of the homogeneous solution, this approach results in zero, indicating the need for a modification. The correct particular solution should be yp = Axe^4x to account for the overlap with the homogeneous solution. Additional resources and methods, such as the method of undetermined coefficients and annihilators, are suggested for further understanding.
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Homework Statement


y''-16y=2e^4x. Find general solution

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the homogenous equation which is c1e^-4x+c2e^4x, but I'm trying to find the particular solution for 2e^4x. I did yp=ae^4x, yp'=4ae^4x, yp''=16ae^4x, then plugged it into the equation, then got 0=2e^4x. What am I doing wrong. And I don't understand how 2e^4x becomes ae^4x
 
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Ric-Veda said:

Homework Statement


y''-16y=2e^4x. Find general solution

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the homogenous equation which is c1e^-4x+c2e^4x, but I'm trying to find the particular solution for 2e^4x. I did yp=ae^4x, yp'=4ae^4x, yp''=16ae^4x, then plugged it into the equation, then got 0=2e^4x. What am I doing wrong. And I don't understand how 2e^4x becomes ae^4x

Use the method of undermined coefficients; see, eg.,
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/DE/UndeterminedCoefficients.aspx
or
http://www.math.psu.edu/tseng/class/Math251/Notes-2nd%20order%20ODE%20pt2.pdf
 
Ric-Veda said:

Homework Statement


y''-16y=2e^4x. Find general solution

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I have the homogenous equation which is c1e^-4x+c2e^4x, but I'm trying to find the particular solution for 2e^4x. I did yp=ae^4x, yp'=4ae^4x, yp''=16ae^4x, then plugged it into the equation, then got 0=2e^4x. What am I doing wrong. And I don't understand how 2e^4x becomes ae^4x

Since ##e^{4x}## is a solution to the homogeneous equation, of course trying ##y_p = ae^{4x}## is going to give you ##0##. Try ##y_p = Axe^{4x}##.
 
LCKurtz said:
Since ##e^{4x}## is a solution to the homogeneous equation, of course trying ##y_p = ae^{4x}## is going to give you ##0##. Try ##y_p = Axe^{4x}##.
But I need to know why instead of using yp=ae^4x, you have to use yp=axe^4x (sorry, the template to write the equation like you did is very complicated for me)
 
My professor did not go in dept. I just know know:
if a constant: yp=A

if x: yp=Ax+B

if x^2: yp=Ax^2+Bx+C

if cos(x) or sin(x): yp=Acos(x)+Asin(x)

if e^x: yp=Ae^x

Or something like that?
 
You have been suggested to look at the method of undetermined coefficients above. Another more organized way is to use the method of annihilators, which involves less guesswork. Lots of info on the internet. One source is
http://dankalman.net/AUhome/classes/classesF12/odes/assignments/annihilatormethod.pdf
 
Ric-Veda said:
My professor did not go in dept. I just know know:
if a constant:

if cos(x) or sin(x): yp=Acos(x)+Asin(x)

if e^x: yp=Ae^x

Or something like that?
These are valid only, if the the right side is not solution of the homogeneous equation. If it is, you have to include the factor x, in order that you do not get zero on the right side when you substitute the particular solution.

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Ric-Veda said:
But I need to know why instead of using yp=ae^4x, you have to use yp=axe^4x (sorry, the template to write the equation like you did is very complicated for me)

Have you looked at the links I supplied in post #2?
 

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