Pn Junction Diode: Electrons, Holes, and Immobile Ions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the behavior of electrons and holes in a pn junction diode, specifically focusing on the formation of immobile ions, the depletion region, and the concept of recombination. Participants explore the mechanisms of charge movement and the implications of the space charge region on diffusion processes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how immobile ions are formed at the junction and how they prevent further diffusion of electrons and holes.
  • Another participant references a Wikipedia article that explains equilibrium in pn junctions through diffusion.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of the space charge region, with one participant noting that it contains negative ions on the p-side and positive ions on the n-side, leading to confusion about how the electric field can oppose diffusion.
  • A participant describes the situation of electrons and holes in the diode, suggesting that electrons jump into holes, creating a region where charge carriers are not free to move, complicating diffusion.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the space charge region, indicating that the net negative charge on the p-side is equal in magnitude to the net positive charge on the n-side, maintaining overall charge neutrality.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the responses received and seeks clarification on the concept of concentration gradient.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion and seek clarification on several points, indicating that there is no consensus on the explanations provided regarding the space charge region and its effects on diffusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the definitions of terms like "recombination," "space charge," and "concentration gradient," which may affect their interpretations of the discussion.

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folks, when a pn junction diode is formed, electrons in the n type and holes in the p type diffuse. agreed. then how immobile ions are formed at the vicinity of the junction leading to depletion region? how these immobile ions prevent further diffusion?
it is being said electrons and holes recombine after crossing the junction? actually what is recombination mean? what is space charge? please help.
 
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The regions nearby the PN interfaces lose their neutrality and become charged, forming the space charge region or depletion layer .The electric field created by the space charge region opposes the diffusion process for both electrons and holes
mr. naty1, i don't understand these two lines mentioned in wikipedia article suggested by you. space charge contains negative ions on p side and positive ions on n side. if this being the case naturally attraction between holes and negative ions should occur on the p side and same being the case between electrons and positive ions on the n side. then how electric field opposes further diffusion.?
The space charge region has the same charge on both sides of the PN interfaces, thus it extends farther on the less doped side

i don't understand this line too because space charge has negative charge and positive charge but how the statement says 'same charge on both sides " please help sir
 
The regions nearby the PN interfaces lose their neutrality and become charged, forming the space charge region or depletion layer .The electric field created by the space charge region opposes the diffusion process for both electrons and holes
mr. naty1, i don't understand these two lines mentioned in wikipedia article suggested by you. space charge contains negative ions on p side and positive ions on n side. if this being the case naturally attraction between holes and negative ions should occur on the p side and same being the case between electrons and positive ions on the n side. then how electric field opposes further diffusion.?
The space charge region has the same charge on both sides of the PN interfaces, thus it extends farther on the less doped side i don't understand this line too because space charge has negative charge and positive charge but how the statement says 'same charge on both sides " please help sir
 
Heres a couple of thoughts that may or may not help out in some manner.

On one side is a bunch of extra electrons not bound very tightly. On the otherside is a bunch of extra holes (spots in the 3d structure that are very likely to attract and hold an electron). Both sides are neutral since the number/charge of the electrons and protons balance as long as they are kept apart...

This situation changes when the 2 materials are placed together. Some of the close by electrons jump into the big holes (perhaps leaving a smaller hole behind). Pretty soon you have a region of space in the middle where it looks like there are no holes or electrons (actually the electrons are there, but since they are stuck in a hole, they do not easily move around or do much of anything - give them a good hit with another electron and you will see an electron/hole pair pop back out at you).

It is difficult for electrons to diffuse through this region as there are no big holes to jump into and electrons are held too tightly to be bumped along from hole to hole inside the material.
 
logearav said:
The regions nearby the PN interfaces lose their neutrality and become charged, forming the space charge region or depletion layer .The electric field created by the space charge region opposes the diffusion process for both electrons and holes
mr. naty1, i don't understand these two lines mentioned in wikipedia article suggested by you. space charge contains negative ions on p side and positive ions on n side. if this being the case naturally attraction between holes and negative ions should occur on the p side and same being the case between electrons and positive ions on the n side. then how electric field opposes further diffusion.?
The process begins by electrons on the n-side and holes on the p-side crossing the pn-junction because there exists a concentration gradient causing diffusion. The space-charged region formed opposes this diffusion because the negative ions on the p-side opposes the diffusion of electrons from the n-side. Similarly for the positive ions on the p-side. This occurs until equilibrium has been reached.

The space charge region has the same charge on both sides of the PN interfaces, thus it extends farther on the less doped side i don't understand this line too because space charge has negative charge and positive charge but how the statement says 'same charge on both sides " please help sir
What this means is that magnitude of the net negative charge on the p-side is the same as the magnitude of the net positive charge on the n-side, which makes complete sense because for every positive/negative ion which is exposed after an electron/hole pair recombines, overall charge neutrality of the device is preserved.
 
many thanks mr.edguy99 and mr. defennder for your replies.
what is concentration gradient sir?
 

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