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The discussion focuses on the mathematical process of reflecting a point (a, b) across the line y = mx, specifically y = 3x. The derived coordinates of the reflected point are confirmed as [(3b - 4a)/5, (3a + 4b)/5]. Additionally, a general formula for reflecting a point across any line y = mx + k is established, leading to the coordinates a' = [(1 - m²)a + 2m(b - k)] / (m² + 1) and b' = [(m² - 1)b + 2(ma + k)] / (m² + 1).

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This question is found in the challenge section of the textbook. This is a two-part question. Like always, I am looking for steps or hints that will allow me to work out the math.

1. If the point (a, b) is reflected in the line y = 3x, show that the coordinates of the reflected points are as follows:

[(3b - 4a)/5, (3a + 4b)/5]

2. If the point (a, b) is reflected in the line y = mx, what are the coordinates of the reflected point?
 
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RTCNTC said:
This question is found in the challenge section of the textbook. This is a two-part question. Like always, I am looking for steps or hints that will allow me to work out the math.

1. If the point (a, b) is reflected in the line y = 3x, show that the coordinates of the reflected points are as follows:

[(3b - 4a)/5, (3a + 4b)/5]

2. If the point (a, b) is reflected in the line y = mx, what are the coordinates of the reflected point?
What have you tried?

-Dan
 
Let's generalize the method I posted http://mathhelpboards.com/pre-calculus-21/reflection-about-y-x-20690-post94058.html#post94058 to reflect a given point $(a,b)$ about the line $y=mx+k$, where ($m\ne0$). We will call the reflected point $(a',b')$.

First, we want the distance $d$ between the given point and the line:

$$d=\frac{|ma+k-b|}{\sqrt{m^2+1}}$$

So, we know $(a'b')$ must lie along the line:

$$y=-\frac{1}{m}(x-a)+b$$

Hence:

$$mb'-mb=a-a'\tag{1}$$

We also know the distance from $(a'b')$ to the line must be $d$, so we have:

$$d=\frac{|ma'+k-b'|}{\sqrt{m^2+1}}$$

Thus, we want to look at (to ensure the two points are distinct):

$$ma+k-b=-ma'-k+b'$$

$$b+b'-k=ma+ma'+k\tag{2}$$

From (1), we find:

$$b'=\frac{mb+a-a'}{m}$$

And from (2):

$$b'=ma+ma'-b+2k$$

Hence:

$$\frac{mb+a-a'}{m}=ma+ma'-b+2k$$

Solving for $a'$, there results:

$$a'=\frac{(1-m^2)a+2m(b-k)}{m^2+1}$$

And so plugging this value into either expression for $b'$ above gives us (after simplification):

$$b'=\frac{(m^2-1)b+2(ma+k)}{m^2+1}$$

Now we have a general formula. (Clapping)

In the given problem, we have $m=3$ and $k=0$, thus:

$$a'=\frac{(1-3^2)a+2(3)(b-0)}{3^2+1}=\frac{-8a+6b}{10}=\frac{3b-4a}{5}$$

$$b'=\frac{(3^2-1)b+2((3)a+0)}{3^2+1}=\frac{8b+6a}{10}=\frac{4b+3a}{5}$$
 
MarkFL said:
Let's generalize the method I posted http://mathhelpboards.com/pre-calculus-21/reflection-about-y-x-20690-post94058.html#post94058 to reflect a given point $(a,b)$ about the line $y=mx+k$, where ($m\ne0$). We will call the reflected point $(a',b')$.

First, we want the distance $d$ between the given point and the line:

$$d=\frac{|ma+k-b|}{\sqrt{m^2+1}}$$

So, we know $(a'b')$ must lie along the line:

$$y=-\frac{1}{m}(x-a)+b$$

Hence:

$$mb'-mb=a-a'\tag{1}$$

We also know the distance from $(a'b')$ to the line must be $d$, so we have:

$$d=\frac{|ma'+k-b'|}{\sqrt{m^2+1}}$$

Thus, we want to look at (to ensure the two points are distinct):

$$ma+k-b=-ma'-k+b'$$

$$b+b'-k=ma+ma'+k\tag{2}$$

From (1), we find:

$$b'=\frac{mb+a-a'}{m}$$

And from (2):

$$b'=ma+ma'-b+2k$$

Hence:

$$\frac{mb+a-a'}{m}=ma+ma'-b+2k$$

Solving for $a'$, there results:

$$a'=\frac{(1-m^2)a+2m(b-k)}{m^2+1}$$

And so plugging this value into either expression for $b'$ above gives us (after simplification):

$$b'=\frac{(m^2-1)b+2(ma+k)}{m^2+1}$$

Now we have a general formula. (Clapping)

In the given problem, we have $m=3$ and $k=0$, thus:

$$a'=\frac{(1-3^2)a+2(3)(b-0)}{3^2+1}=\frac{-8a+6b}{10}=\frac{3b-4a}{5}$$

$$b'=\frac{(3^2-1)b+2((3)a+0)}{3^2+1}=\frac{8b+6a}{10}=\frac{4b+3a}{5}$$
Thank you very much. Great work!
 

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