Point Charges: direction and magnitude

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves four point charges located at the corners of a square, with two positive and two negative charges. The original poster seeks to determine both the direction and magnitude of the net electric force on a charge located at the center of the square for different arrangements of the point charges.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of the alternating charge signs on the net electric force's magnitude and direction. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem, particularly about whether calculations or equations are required. Some participants suggest considering the forces from each charge separately and adding the resulting vectors.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the reasoning behind the forces involved. There is a recognition of the need to calculate the forces from each charge and combine them, although some participants express uncertainty about the format of the questions and the calculations required.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of needing to express answers in terms of specific variables, and some participants question the setup of the problem and the implications of the charge arrangements on the forces experienced by the central charge.

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Homework Statement


Four point charges are located at the corners of a square with sides of length a. Two of the charges are + q, and two are - q.
1)Find the direction of the net electric force exerted on a charge + Q, located at the center of the square, for the following arrangement of charge: the charges alternate in sign \left( { + q, - q, + q, - q} \right) as you go around the square.
2)Find the magnitude of the net electric force exerted on a charge + Q, located at the center of the square, for the following arrangement of charge: the charges alternate in sign \left( { + q, - q, + q, - q} \right) as you go around the square.
3)Find the magnitude of the net electric force exerted on a charge + Q, located at the center of the square, for the following arrangement of charge: the two positive charges are on the top corners, and the two negative charges are on the bottom corners.
Express your answer in terms of the variables q, Q, a, and appropriate constants.
4) Find the direction of the net electric force exerted on a charge + Q, located at the center of the square, for the following arrangement of charge: the two positive charges are on the top corners, and the two negative charges are on the bottom corners.


Homework Equations


F = k (qQ/r^2) ?


The Attempt at a Solution


For question 1 I think it is magnitude = 0 because of the pull directions (b/c the signs alternate). For 4, I think the pull will be downward b/c the Q+ will be attracted to the neg charges. For 2 and 3 I'm not exactly sure what they are asking, so can somebody help me with my comprehension of what they are asking? Thanks!
 
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Hi matt72lsu! :smile:
matt72lsu said:
For question 1 I think it is magnitude = 0 because of the pull directions (b/c the signs alternate). For 4, I think the pull will be downward b/c the Q+ will be attracted to the neg charges.

Yes, that's right (and that answers 2 also, so that only leaves 3 …)

(but why does the sign alternating make the magnitude 0?)
For … 3 I'm not exactly sure what they are asking, so can somebody help me with my comprehension of what they are asking?

Find the force on Q from each charge separately.

Force is a vector, so that gives you four vectors … now add them. :smile:
 
Thanks for responding tiny-tim!
I think the magnitude is zero because you will have alternating corners "pulling" on the charge, thus it will not "move". I know what I'm trying to say doesn't make any sense... for 2 and 3, i guess I'm just confused on the format of the question. are we actually calculating something or is it just asking me to write an equation for what is happening?
 
matt72lsu said:
Thanks for responding tiny-tim!
I think the magnitude is zero because you will have alternating corners "pulling" on the charge, thus it will not "move". I know what I'm trying to say doesn't make any sense...

no, it doesn't … if Q was in the centre of just two alternating charges, it would be pulled in the same direction by both, wouldn't it?

Instead, just consider two of the same charges.
for 2 and 3, i guess I'm just confused on the format of the question. are we actually calculating something or is it just asking me to write an equation for what is happening?

Yes, you are actually calculating something.

You are calculating four vectors, and adding them.
 
ok I'm sorry i can't quite wrap my head around this one. so am i on the right track with the equation i provided? so r= 0 for 2? for each corner i could label each q1, q2, etc? then find the vector towards Q+ (F1, F2, etc). then add? and k = 8.99 e9 correct
 
I'm not sure what you're saying :redface:, but I think it's correct :smile:

show us the actual calculations.
 
well the directions say to show answer in terma of the variables q, Q, a and k? so i think it would be F= k (qQ/2a^2)
 

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