Point of Intersection involving logarithms

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The discussion revolves around finding the point of intersection between the logarithmic functions ##y=\log_{2}{(2x)}## and ##y=\log_{4}{(x)}##. Participants are exploring the algebraic manipulation of these equations to identify potential solutions.

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  • Participants are attempting to set the two logarithmic equations equal to each other and manipulate the resulting expressions. There is confusion regarding the application of logarithmic properties and the correct handling of bases.

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Some participants have provided guidance on rewriting the equations using different bases to simplify the problem. There is acknowledgment of errors in previous attempts, and some have reported progress after re-evaluating their approaches.

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Participants express uncertainty about the validity of their steps and the implications of their manipulations, particularly regarding domain considerations for the logarithmic functions involved.

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Homework Statement


Solve for the point of intersection between ##y=\log_{2}{(2x)}## and ##y=\log_{4}{(x)}##

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3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
Setting the two equations equal:
$$\log_{2}{(2x)}=\log_{4}{(x)}\\
2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}} \\
2^{2x}=4^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\\
2x=2\log_{4}{(x)}\\
x=\log_{4}{(x)} \\
4^x=x \\ $$
I'm really confused and I'm pretty sure I've done something wrong at this point.
 
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Potatochip911 said:

Homework Statement


Solve for the point of intersection between ##y=\log_{2}{(2x)}## and ##y=\log_{4}{(x)}##

Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
Setting the two equations equal:
$$\log_{2}{(2x)}=\log_{4}{(x)}\\
2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}} \\ On the right hand side, write 2 as 41/2 .
2^{2x}=4^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\\
2x=2\log_{4}{(x)}\\
x=\log_{4}{(x)} \\
4^x=x \\ $$
I'm really confused and I'm pretty sure I've done something wrong at this point.
You're right about that.

If you use each side of
##\displaystyle \ 2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ ##​
as the exponent with a base of 2, you get
##\displaystyle \ 2^{2x}=2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​

Furthermore,
##\displaystyle \ \left({2^{2}}\right)^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ne2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​
 
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SammyS said:
You're right about that.

If you use each side of
##\displaystyle \ 2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ ##​
as the exponent with a base of 2, you get
##\displaystyle \ 2^{2x}=2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​

Furthermore,
##\displaystyle \ \left({2^{2}}\right)^{\log_{4}{(x)}}\ne2^{\left(\displaystyle {2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\right)}\ ##​
Managed to get the correct answer after rewriting ##2## as ##4^{1/2}## like you mentioned. $$2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}} \\
2^{2x}=2^{2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}}\\
2^{2x}=2^{4^{1/2 \cdot \log_{4}{(x)}}}\\
2^{2x}=2^{x^{1/2}} \\
2x-\sqrt{x}=0 \\
\sqrt{x}(2\sqrt{x}-1)=0 $$ Giving x=0 and x=1/4, with x=0 not being a solution since it's not in the domain, thanks for the help!
 
Potatochip911 said:

Homework Statement


Solve for the point of intersection between ##y=\log_{2}{(2x)}## and ##y=\log_{4}{(x)}##

Homework Equations


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/B]
Setting the two equations equal:
$$\log_{2}{(2x)}=\log_{4}{(x)}\\
2x=2^{\log_{4}{(x)}}$$
A suggestion to make things a bit easier is:

Rather than using 2 as the base, use 4 as the base. Then change the base on the left hand side to 22 .

##\ \left(2^2\right)^{\log_{2}{(2x)}} =2^{\log_{2}{(4x^2)}}=\,? \ ##
 
SammyS said:
A suggestion to make things a bit easier is:

Rather than using 2 as the base, use 4 as the base. Then change the base on the left hand side to 22 .

##\ \left(2^2\right)^{\log_{2}{(2x)}} =2^{\log_{2}{(4x^2)}}=\,? \ ##
Okay it was definitely easier to do it this way.
 

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