Poisson brackets little problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating Poisson brackets for a particle's linear momentum vector \(\vec{p}\) and angular momentum vector \(\vec{M} = \vec{r} \times \vec{p}\). The user seeks clarification on the correct application of the Poisson bracket formula, specifically regarding the subscripts for the vectors involved. The formula used is \([u,p]_{q,p} = \sum_k \left( \frac{\partial q}{\partial q_k} \frac{\partial v}{\partial p_k} - \frac{\partial q}{\partial p_k} \frac{\partial v}{\partial q_k} \right)\). The user also notes the use of the Einstein summation convention in expressing angular momentum components.

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Homework Statement


For a particle, calculate Poisson brackets formed by:
1)The Cartesian components of the linear momentum \vec p and the angular momentum [/itex]\vec M =\vec r \times \vec p[/itex].
2)The Cartesian components of the angular momentum.

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[u,p]_{q,p}= \sum _k \left ( \frac{\partial q }{\partial q_k } \frac{\partial v }{\partial p _k} -\frac{\partial q }{\partial p_k } \frac{\partial v }{\partial q _k} \right ).

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2)Nothing still, waiting to complete 1).
1)I calculated the Cartesian components of M and p.
I don't understand what I have to calculate. [\vec p, \vec M] I'm guessing but with what subscript?
Thanks for any help.

Edit: Hmm I think the subscript is always q,p. But p and M are vectors, so have I to calculate directional derivative?
 
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\vec{p} = ( p_x , p_y , p_z ) = p_i and \vec{r} = ( x , y , z ) = x_i

M_i = \epsilon_{ijk} x_j p_k where the einstein summation convention is used

[p_i,M_j]= \sum _l \left ( \frac{\partial p_i }{\partial q_l } \frac{\partial M_j }{\partial p _l} -\frac{\partial p_i }{\partial p_l } \frac{\partial M_j }{\partial q _l} \right )

hope this helps
 

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