Poisson's equation: Calculating the Laplacian of an electric potential

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The discussion revolves around applying Poisson's equation to the electric potential outside a charged sphere. The original poster calculates the electric field and potential based on a total charge and seeks to verify their results using the Laplacian of the electric potential.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the Laplacian of the electric potential, questioning how to handle the term involving 1/r and the implications of the Dirac delta function. Other participants point out the validity of the potential expression only outside the sphere and discuss the implications for Poisson's equation.

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Participants are exploring the implications of the original poster's calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the region of interest. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of Poisson's equation and the conditions under which the Laplacian should be zero.

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There is a noted lack of clarity in the original poster's problem statement, particularly regarding the specific question being asked and the relevant equations provided. The discussion also touches on the limitations of the potential expression for points inside the sphere.

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Homework Statement
We have a sphere with radius R and charge density p=ar (a is a constant, r is the distance from the midpoint of the sphere). There is no charge outside of the sphere.
Relevant Equations
Calculate the electric potential V(r) outside the sphere (in terms of total charge Q).
First I calculated the electric fields outside of the sphere in terms of the total charge Q.

total charge Q:
Q = aπR^4

electric field outside: (r>R)
E(r) = (1/4πε) Q/r^2 (ε is the vacuum permittivity)

electric potential outside: (r>R)
V(r) = (1/4πε) Q/r

This was no problem for me (at least if my answer is right),
I wanted to check my answer with poisson's equation:

ΔV = -p/ε = -ar/ε

However i don't know how to calculate the laplacian of an electric potential which has 1/r in it.
by blindly doing the Laplacian of spherical coordinates I obviously got 0, so i checked that:

Δ(1/r) = -4πδ

However there is no intergral so i can't get rid of the dirac delta, and I also have constants so how do i deal with those?
 
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Hello 31413, :welcome: !

There is no question in your homework statement and no equation in your 'relevant equations'.
Also
threeonefouronethree said:
First I calculated the electric fields outside of the sphere in terms of the total charge Q
Looks weird, because the impresssion you give is that that is all that is asked from you.
So with
threeonefouronethree said:
V(r) = (1/4πε) Q/r
You are done with this exercise.
 
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threeonefouronethree said:
I wanted to check my answer with poisson's equation:

ΔV = -p/ε = -ar/ε

However i don't know how to calculate the laplacian of an electric potential which has 1/r in it.
by blindly doing the Laplacian of spherical coordinates I obviously got 0
Your expression for V is only valid for points outside the sphere where the charge density is zero. So, Poisson's equation implies that the Laplacian of V should be zero outside the sphere. That's what you got.
 
Yes, and be glad you didn't try to check for the field inside the sphere by Poisson's eq as you started out with.
Can be done, is still a linear equation, but you have to solve the Euler-Cauchy eq. I actually tried it & it works!
 
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