Polarization state conventions

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The discussion revolves around the conventions of polarization states, specifically regarding circularly polarized light and the interpretation of phase in mathematical equations. Participants explore conflicting definitions and interpretations found in various sources, including textbooks.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion over whether circularly polarized light approaching the observer is classified as left-circularly or right-circularly polarized, noting that sources provide conflicting information.
  • It is suggested that the designation of "left" or "right" polarization is independent of the observer's viewing direction.
  • Participants discuss the implications of initial phase in equations, with some stating that the absence of an initial phase could be considered leading or lagging depending on the definitions used.
  • One participant questions the labeling of a counterclockwise rotating electric field vector as right-circularly polarized, citing a discrepancy with their textbook.
  • Clarification is sought regarding whether a wave with an initial phase of +π/2 is considered leading or lagging, with some asserting that it is leading if the phase is increasing.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions of polarization states or the interpretation of phase in equations, indicating multiple competing views and ongoing uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of polarization and phase across different sources, which may lead to confusion and differing interpretations among participants.

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Ok, so I keep reading about these concepts and every source says something different. Even within the same textbook, it says conflicting things.
So you have a circularly polarized light that is coming TOWARDS you. That is considered left-circularly polarized or right-circularly polarized? I've seen both stated.
And if you have two equations, one with no \epsilon given for the initial phase, and the other with an initial phase of +\pi/2, which one is lagging and which one is leading? I've seen sources that say the no initial phase is leading and some that say the no initial phase is lagging.
Thanks
 
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leroyjenkens said:
So you have a circularly polarized light that is coming TOWARDS you. That is considered left-circularly polarized or right-circularly polarized? I've seen both stated.
It can be both, depending on its polarization ;). "Left" and "right" is independent of your viewing direction.

And if you have two equations, one with no \epsilon given for the initial phase, and the other with an initial phase of +\pi/2, which one is lagging and which one is leading? I've seen sources that say the no initial phase is leading and some that say the no initial phase is lagging.
Thanks
Depending on the definition of that phase in your equation.
 
I left out part of my question on that first one. I meant to ask if the electric field vector is rotating counter clockwise, with you seeing it as it's coming towards you, is that right-circularly polarized or left-circularly polarized. My book says right, which seems backwards. It's rotating left, but it's called right?

The definition of the phase in the equation is where the wave starts. So if it has +π/2 as its initial phase, that means it starts further along the x-axis (one half wavelength further) than the other wave. Is that considered leading or lagging?

Thanks.
 

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