Polynomial Factorization for Integers: Finding Real and Complex Roots

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The discussion revolves around the factorization of the polynomial x^5 + 22x^3 - 34x^2 + 117x - 306, specifically focusing on identifying its integer roots and expressing the polynomial in terms of real linear and quadratic factors. Participants are exploring the nature of the roots, including both real and complex roots, and their relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss finding the real root x=2 and reducing the polynomial to a quartic form. There is uncertainty about how to find the complex roots and whether they can be expressed in terms of integer coefficients. Some participants suggest using complex conjugate pairs and expanding them into real quadratic factors. Others propose equating coefficients from expanded forms to derive relationships among the variables.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have suggested using computational tools like Maple to assist in solving the problem, while others are attempting to derive relationships through algebraic manipulation. There is no explicit consensus on a single method or solution yet.

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Participants note that the last terms of the quadratic factors must be factors of 153, leading to discussions about possible integer pairs. There is also mention of a time constraint affecting the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


In the polynomial x^5+22x^3-34x^2+117x-306 given that the roots on the real and imaginary plane are all integers, factorize the polynomial into real linear and quadratic factors.


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I was able to find the real factor, which is x=2 and then I reduced the polynomial to this:

(x-2)(x^4+2x^3+26x^2+18x+153)

But this quartic has all complex roots, and I'm unsure how to find them given the information above. Please help!
 
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Oh and I forgot to mention that since the polynomial has real coefficients, the complex roots will have complex conjugate roots also, so this can be expressed as follows:

x^4+2x^3+26x^2+18x+153 \equiv (x-(a+ib))(x-(a-ib))(x-(c+id))(x-(c-id))

where, a,b,c,d all integers (from the information in the question).

Expanding these complex linear factors into real quadratic factors gives:

(x^2-2a+a^2+b^2)(x^2-2c+c^2+d^2)

I could try expand this and equate the coefficients with the original quartic, but this is quite a lot of effort considering the question should have been answered relatively quickly.
 


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The last term in each of the quadratic factors have to be factors of 153, so either 3 and 51 or 9 and 17, but the last pair is the obvious choice. Then you could write out the quadratic factors as (x2 + ax + 9)(x2 + bx + 17)
Now you don't have to multiply out the whole thing but only part of it. Multiplying it out, you would get two terms with x3, three with x2, and two with x. Multiply the terms that give you the x3 and x terms and equate them with the coefficients in your quartic. You'll easily get a and b in the two quadratic factors above and you're done.
 


Oh I was just told today that it is acceptable to use Maple to solve this problem, considering no one else could answer it within the 4 minute allocated time limit.

Anyway, not just with guessing but from the quadratics I expressed, we also have:

(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2)=153 where a,b,c,d E Z

then looking at the possible factors -

1 and 153
3 and 51
9 and 17

It can be concluded that the only possible pair that can be expressed as above is 9 and 17, with a=0, b=\pm 3 (since it has to be an imaginary root) and c,d=\pm 4,\pm 1.

From there, using the other relationships, the results can be found.
 

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