Polynomials Problem Help: How to Solve P(z)Q(z)=0 Using Coefficient Equations

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation P(z)Q(z)=0, where P and Q are polynomials. Participants explore the implications of equating coefficients and the conditions under which the polynomials can be zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss equating coefficients from the polynomial expansion and question the next steps. There are hints about starting from the highest degree terms and considerations regarding the roots of the polynomials.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and exploring the implications of the conditions given in the problem. There is a recognition of contradictions arising from the assumptions about the coefficients of the polynomials.

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Participants note that the problem includes conditions stating that the leading coefficients a_n and b_m are non-zero, which influences the reasoning about the roots of the polynomials.

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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution



If P(z)Q(z)=0 then

\displaystyle a_0b_0 + (a_0b_1 + a_1 b_0)z + ... + \left( \sum_{i=0}^k a_i b_{k-i} \right) z^k + ... + a_n b_m z^{n+m} =0

Now what? Equate coefficients?

a_0 b_0 =0 \Rightarrow a_0 = 0 \; \text{or}\; b_0 = 0

a_0 = 0 \Rightarrow a_1 b_0 =0 \Rightarrow a_1 = 0 \; \text{or}\; b_0 =0

b_0 =0 \Rightarrow a_0 b_1 = 0 \Rightarrow b_1 = 0 \; \text{or}\; a_0 = 0

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Hi Ted123! :smile:

Hint: start at zn+m. :wink:
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi Ted123! :smile:

Hint: start at zn+m. :wink:

Doing this gives

a_n = 0\;\text{or}\; b_n = 0 but what next?

Would it be better to use the fact that:

If P isn't identically zero, it has at most n roots.
If Q isn't identically zero, it has at most m roots.

So, if neither P and Q are identically zero, PQ has at most m+n roots. How could I use this?
 
Ted123 said:
… but what next?

think! :smile:

(how are an and bm defined?)
 


tiny-tim said:
think! :smile:

(how are an and bm defined?)

Well in the question before this it states that a_n \neq 0 and b_m \neq 0 and it says in this question let P and Q be complex polynomials as in the previous question (I missed these conditions out when I copied the polynomials from the previous question).

So if a_n b_m =0 but a_n , b_m \neq 0 what do we have?
 
a contradiction!

soooo … ? :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
a contradiction!

soooo … ? :smile:

P(z)Q(z) \neq 0
 
Yes … you've proved that if P and Q are not zero, then PQ is not zero. :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
Yes … you've proved that if P and Q are not zero, then PQ is not zero. :smile:

So does this prove the converse (which I need to prove) that if PQ=0 then P or Q are 0? Oh yes - I see it does now :smile:
 
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