Positive Definite Matrix - I think this is correct? Just want reassurance.

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The discussion revolves around determining the values of b for which a given matrix is positive definite. The matrix is represented in a non-standard format, and the context includes the properties of positive definite matrices and their implications.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conditions under which the matrix is positive definite, discussing the expression x^{T}Ax and its implications. There are attempts to complete the square and check specific conditions related to the matrix's entries and determinants.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering alternative methods of analysis and checking assumptions about the values of b. There is a recognition that multiple values of b may yield a positive definite matrix, though explicit consensus on the range of b has not been reached.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the representation of the matrix and the conditions for positive definiteness, with participants questioning the validity of specific boundary values for b.

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Homework Statement


For what b is the following matrix positive definite?
([tex]\stackrel{1}{b}[/tex] [tex]\stackrel{b}{4}[/tex])

(Sorry for the strange way I have that matrix represented)

Homework Equations


For a positive definite matrix
x[tex]^{T}[/tex]Ax
for all nonzero x in [tex]\Re^n[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


x[tex]^{T}[/tex]Ax = x[tex]^{2}_{1}[/tex]+2bx[tex]_{1}[/tex]x[tex]_{2}[/tex]+4x[tex]^{2}_{2}[/tex]

And the only time this is a strictly positive number for all x is when b is zero correct?
Thanks!

(Also, if you have suggestions on how I can better represent my math using tex then I am doing please let me know)
 
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No, there are other values of b that make that positive definite. Complete the square.
 
Ah yes, thank you.

Just to check quick then I get

(x[tex]_{1}[/tex]+bx[tex]_{2}[/tex])[tex]^{2}[/tex]+(4-b[tex]^{2}[/tex])x[tex]^{2}_{2}[/tex]

Which is positive when -2[tex]\leq[/tex] b [tex]\leq[/tex] 2, correct?

Thanks again.
 
Remember that if [tex]A[/tex] is an [tex]n \times n[/tex] positive definite matrix then, among other things, the upper left element of the matrix must be positive, the determinant of the upper left [tex]2 \times 2[/tex] submatrix must have a positive determinant, and so on. For your matrix to be positive definite this means the upper left entry must be positive (check) and the determinant of the matrix has to be positive. What does that fact tell you about [tex]b[/tex] ? (Just an alternate way of considering this type of problem)
 
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Ah yes, thank you.

Just to check quick then I get

(x[tex]_{1}[/tex]+bx[tex]_{2}[/tex])[tex]^{2}[/tex]+(4-b[tex]^{2}[/tex])x[tex]^{2}_{2}[/tex]

Which is positive when -2[tex]\leq[/tex] b [tex]\leq[/tex] 2, correct?

Thanks again.

I wouldn't say b=2 or b=(-2) is going to give you a positive definite matrix.
 

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