Positive Definiteness of a Real Matrix

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The discussion focuses on determining the positive definiteness of three real symmetric matrices: A, B, and C. Matrix A is confirmed to be not positive definite as it fails tests b, c, and d, while matrices B and C are established as positive definite since they pass test c. The key tests for positive definiteness include checking eigenvalues, determinants of upper left submatrices, and pivots. It is clarified that passing any one of these tests is sufficient to conclude positive definiteness.

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Homework Statement



Decide for or against the positive definiteness of

[2 -1 -1
-1 2 -1 = A
-1 -1 2]

[2 -1 -1
-1 2 1 = B
-1 1 2]

[5 2 1
2 2 2 = C
1 2 5]

Homework Equations



Each of the following tests is a necessary and sufficient condition for the real symmetric matrix A to be positive definite:
a) xTAx greater than 0 for all nonzero real vectors x.
b) All the eigenvalues of A are greater than 0
c) All the upper left submatrices of A have positive determinants
d) All the pivots (without row exchanges) are greater than 0.

The Attempt at a Solution



For matrix A,
I found that it fails tests b,c and d. I'm a bit confused because when I performed test a with vector x = [ 1 2 3 ] ^T the test passes, but with an x = [1 1 1]^T the test fails. Therefore, I said that it is not positive definite, but I'm unsure on this one.

For matrices B and C, I said that they are both positive definite because they both pass test c. I'm assuming that if it passes one of the tests it is sufficient.

Am I thinking correctly? Thanks!
 
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Hi tatianaiistb! :smile:

Yes, it is sufficient if a matrix passes one of the tests.
Each test is equivalent to each other test.

Note that for test (a) the test has to pass for ALL nonzero real vectors.
In other words, this is not a practical test.
 
tatianaiistb said:

Homework Statement



Decide for or against the positive definiteness of

[2 -1 -1
-1 2 -1 = A
-1 -1 2]

[2 -1 -1
-1 2 1 = B
-1 1 2]

[5 2 1
2 2 2 = C
1 2 5]

Homework Equations



Each of the following tests is a necessary and sufficient condition for the real symmetric matrix A to be positive definite:
a) xTAx greater than 0 for all nonzero real vectors x.
b) All the eigenvalues of A are greater than 0
c) All the upper left submatrices of A have positive determinants
d) All the pivots (without row exchanges) are greater than 0.

The Attempt at a Solution



For matrix A,
I found that it fails tests b,c and d. I'm a bit confused because when I performed test a with vector x = [ 1 2 3 ] ^T the test passes, but with an x = [1 1 1]^T the test fails. Therefore, I said that it is not positive definite, but I'm unsure on this one.

For matrices B and C, I said that they are both positive definite because they both pass test c. I'm assuming that if it passes one of the tests it is sufficient.

Am I thinking correctly? Thanks!

Note: (a) is the definition of positive-definiteness; it is not a test at all.
 
So, if it fails one test it is sufficient to say that it is not positive definite, and viceversa? Thanks!
 
Yep!
 
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