Positron Generator: Create Anti-Particles & 100% E=MC2?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of generating positrons using high-energy electron beams and the potential for creating a system that converts energy to mass with 100% efficiency, as described by E=mc². The scope includes theoretical considerations, technical challenges, and the efficiency of current technologies in particle physics.

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  • One participant proposes that a beam of high-energy electrons hitting a positively charged plate in a vacuum could produce positrons without annihilation, suggesting the possibility of a 100% energy-to-matter generator.
  • Another participant argues that while 100% conversion of mass to energy is theoretically possible, current technology only allows for a small fraction of mass to be converted to energy, citing figures from particle colliders.
  • A third participant emphasizes the need for precision in discussing conversion percentages, suggesting that even very small percentages can significantly impact the understanding of energy conversion.
  • A later reply reiterates the initial question about positron generation and storage, noting that the energy required to create the electron beam would exceed the energy of the particles produced in collisions.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of achieving 100% energy-to-matter conversion and the efficiency of current technologies. There is no consensus on the practicality of the proposed positron generation method or the efficiency of energy conversion.

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Participants mention limitations of current technology and the theoretical nature of the claims, indicating that the discussion is speculative and dependent on advancements in particle physics.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring advanced concepts in particle physics, energy conversion, and theoretical applications of E=mc².

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if you have a beam of high energy electrons ( enough energy to create positrons) that hit plate in a vacuum that was positively charged could you produce anit particles without the particels annihilating it self (hence the vacuum) and have the positivly charge particles suspended in a magnetic field? and could you have a 100% energy to matter generator. for example puting in 5000 watts and getting out 5.5632e-14 kgs of mass? direct e=mc2 or would this system be partly efficient
 
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You could convert 100% of the mass to energy or vice versa.. BUT not with the technology that exists today or atleast for the next 15-20 years. Correct me if i am wrong but as of today u can convert i guess 0.7 % of mass to energy in the worlds best colliders.
When u burn a paper u are converting around 0.001% or even lesser!
 
rgujju said:
When u burn a paper u are converting around 0.001% or even lesser!

It's worth a taking a moment to do the math before posting... Not everyone reading your post will understand that by "or even lesser", you mean five decimal orders of magnitude. That's the difference between a glass of water and a decent-sized swimming pool.

Besides, 0.00000001% makes your point so much better :smile:
 
piddilingjr said:
if you have a beam of high energy electrons ( enough energy to create positrons) that hit plate in a vacuum that was positively charged could you produce anit particles without the particels annihilating it self (hence the vacuum) and have the positivly charge particles suspended in a magnetic field? and could you have a 100% energy to matter generator. for example puting in 5000 watts and getting out 5.5632e-14 kgs of mass? direct e=mc2 or would this system be partly efficient

There are two questions here: generating positrons, and storing/controlling them to do something interesting with them. If you google for "positron generation" and "positron storage" you'll find a bunch of interesting links, get a sense of just how effective the current techniques are.

No matter what we do, the total amount of energy that we put into creating the initial beam of high-energy electron will far exceed the energy of the massive particles created by the collisions of that beam with its target.
 

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