Andre
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The issue was not so much the tides as the spin axis stabilisation
The discussion centers on the unique characteristics of Earth compared to other planets in the universe, exploring various observable traits and their implications. Participants consider factors such as the presence of a large moon, planetary stability, and the potential for life, while also addressing the limitations of current astronomical observations.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_accelerationThere is geological and paleontological evidence that the Earth rotated faster and that the Moon was closer to the Earth in the remote past.
Ophiolite said:Plate tectonics. ... or a periodic catastrophic affair as on Venus.
AFAIK, the tides are not the mechanism by which the Moon aids in keeping the Earth's rotation stable. Tides are dissipative forces. The same gravity gradient forces that cause the tides also induce a conservative torque on the Earth as a whole. This torque, averaged out over the Moon's 18.6 year nodical period, results in the 26,000 year lunisolar precession.Richard111 said:Ooops, yes. Solar tides. But would that have been sufficient to maintain spin stabilisation? Would the limited range of solar tides have encouraged life to adapt to less exposed land surfaces?
Emphasis mine. This is purely conjectural.Richard111 said:Without the moon, life as we know it may not have been possible.
I am not debating that the Moon slows the Earth's rotation rate. That is a fact. What is debatable is whether the Earth's day would be eight hours long if the Moon never existed. If indeed the Moon formed from a collision between the Earth and Theia, we do not know how much the collision itself changed the Earth's rotation rate.Richard111 said:wikipedia said:There is geological and paleontological evidence that the Earth rotated faster and that the Moon was closer to the Earth in the remote past.
Ophiolite said:There are two principal options:
1. The resurfacing event that occurred around 600 million years ago and the stagnant lid period that preceded it, were themselves preceded by 'conventional' plate tectonics.
2. The resurfacing event etc, was the most recent in a series of such events.
You have to dispose of the internal heat. These are the two obvious mechanisms. I have a gut feel - unquantified - that continuous conventional plate tectonics should have maintained water content on the planet, so I lean to the possibility of periodic resurfacing. The evidence is consisten with either.
There are no assumptions here, only reasonable deductions leading to plausible hypotheses.Andre said:but these are still suppositions following assumptions about heat and heat production in the core, which are also hypotheses.