Possible webpage title: What Type of Simple Machine Has an Efficiency of 81.7%?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the efficiency of a simple machine given specific parameters: an effort of 3 kN to move a 2000 kg mass, with the mass raised 1.5 meters while the effort moves 12 meters. Participants explore the implications of the calculated efficiency of 81.7% and question the characteristics of the machine in question.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of efficiency using work output and work input. Questions arise about the validity of the efficiency value and what types of simple machines could exhibit such efficiency. There is also inquiry into the factors affecting efficiency, such as friction and air resistance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants confirming the calculation of efficiency and questioning the implications of a value of 81.7%. There is a focus on understanding the characteristics of the machine that would yield this efficiency, as well as the theoretical limits of efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the efficiency value is not expressed as a percentage in some posts, leading to clarification about the representation of efficiency. There is also mention of using a nonstandard value for gravitational acceleration, prompting further discussion on the implications of such choices.

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Homework Statement



Could I please have a tutor check my answer and solution?

question: An effort of 3 kN is required to move a mass of 2000 kg in a certain simple machine. If the mass is raised 1.5 meters while the effort moves 12 meters, find the efficiency?

2. equations used in solution:

work output = load x distance moved by load
work input = effort x distance moved by effort
efficiency = work output / work input
3kN = 3000 Newtons

The Attempt at a Solution



my solution:

efficiency = work output / work input

mass = 2000 kg =19613.3 Newtons x 1.5 meters /

3000 Newtons x 12 meters

effort = 29419.95 Nm / 353039.4 Nm

= 0.817

Now, is it possible to have such a low efficiency in a machine? What simple machine would this be?





 
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efficiency = work output / work input

mass = 2000 kg =19613.3 Newtons x 1.5 meters /

3000 Newtons x 12 meters

effort = 29419.95 Nm / 353039.4 Nm

= 0.817
Your solution is correct, although you seemed to have used a nonstandard value for the acceleration due to gravity.
scientist said:
Now, is it possible to have such a low efficiency in a machine? What simple machine would this be?
Why do you think that this efficiency is low? What is the maximum theoretically possible efficiency?
 
Which nonstandard value did I use?

Why do you think that this efficiency is low? What is the maximum theoretically possible efficiency? The maximum theoretically possible efficiency would be 100%.

I think the efficiency is low because we have a number of .817.The efficiency of any machine depends upon the amount of friction and air resistance present. A frictionless machine would have an efficiency of 100%. Here we have .817 for efficiency, so we must have a lot friction or air resistance.
 
scientist said:
Which nonstandard value did I use?
You used g = 9.80665, which is indeed the standard acceleration due to gravity; however, g is more commonly approximated to 9.81 since the actual value of g varies greatly depending on location. It is not a serious problem though.
scientist said:
The maximum theoretically possible efficiency would be 100%.
I think the efficiency is low because we have a number of .817
Note here, that 0.817 is not a percentage efficiency.
 
Ok, the percentage efficiency is 81.7%. How can I find out what kind of simple machine this would be?
 
scientist said:
Ok, the percentage efficiency is 81.7%. How can I find out what kind of simple machine this would be?
Correct. Consider what type of machine/system would operate in such a way?
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An effort of 3 kN is required to move a mass of 2000 kg in a certain simple machine. If the mass is raised 1.5 meters while the effort moves 12 meters[...]
 

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