Potentail Energy beyond infinity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of potential energy in the context of electric charges, particularly focusing on the idea of an electron's potential energy when positioned "beyond infinity" from another charged particle. Participants explore the implications of this concept and the conditions under which potential energy can be positive.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references a book stating that an electron beyond infinity from another charge has positive potential energy and seeks clarification on the relevant formulas.
  • Another participant argues that the notion of "beyond infinity" is nonsensical, suggesting that it is merely a shorthand for discussing a scenario where the electron is separated from the charge without limit.
  • A further inquiry is made regarding the specific position at which an electron would possess positive potential energy.
  • One participant explains that potential energy is calculated as the product of charge and electric potential (PE = qV), noting that because the electron has a negative charge, its potential energy can be positive if the surrounding electric potential is negative, particularly in the presence of another negative charge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the concept of "beyond infinity," with some rejecting it as a valid notion while others seek to understand its implications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the conditions under which an electron can have positive potential energy.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights ambiguities in the definitions of potential energy and electric potential, particularly in extreme scenarios involving infinity. There are unresolved assumptions about the nature of electric fields and potentials in these contexts.

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I read in a book that if an electron is beyond infinity from another charge particle,
then its potential energy will be positive :/
Please tell me which formulae are used for potential energy beyond infinity??
 
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There is no such thing as beyond infinity. Truly, there is no such thing as having the electron at infinity either. It's just a short-hand way of saying suppose you separate the electron far, far away without limit.
 
Then at what position, an electron will have positive potential energy?
 
The potential energy of a charge is the product of its charge and the electric potential in which it sits: PE = qV. Since the charge of an electron is negative, if the electric potential around it is negative, the potential energy will be positive. If another negative charge is around, its electric potential will be negative. So the potential energy between two charges of the same sign will be positive.
 

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