Potential difference between two points located at distances

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The discussion revolves around calculating the potential difference between two points located at distances R_1 and R_2 from a point source. Participants are exploring the implications of distance and angle on potential difference in the context of electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster questions the validity of the potential difference formula given the influence of angle and distance between points P_1 and P_2. Other participants discuss the nature of potential difference in conservative fields and whether the path taken affects the calculation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the concepts of potential difference and conservative fields. Some have provided clarifications regarding the independence of path in conservative fields, while others are questioning the assumptions made about distance and angle in the original poster's query.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the definitions and properties of conservative fields, with references to gravitational and electric fields. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on how distance and angle influence potential difference, particularly in the context of homework constraints.

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Homework Statement
Find the potential difference between two points located at distances [tex]R_1[/tex], and [tex]R_2[/tex] from a point source.

Solution
Potential difference = [tex]V_{p_1, p_2} = V_{abs_1} - V_{abs_2}[/tex].

Question
Hows is the solution above true? What if the angle formed between [tex]P_1, Q, P_2[/tex] increases? Don't we have to take this into consideration? If the angle increases, then [tex]P_1[/tex] will be at a larger distance away from [tex]P_2[/tex] (at least until an angle of [tex]\pi[/tex]). Doesn't distance influence the potential difference?

Thanks again,

JL
 
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Potential difference depends on the position of P1 and P2 with respect the the field, not on the path from P1 to P2.
 
rl.bhat said:
Potential difference depends on the position of P1 and P2 with respect the the field, not on the path from P1 to P2.

Is that a definition, or can it be justified?
 
Yes. It is the basic theorem.
If you lift an object to certain height, rise in potential energy is = mgh, irrespective of the path through the object is taken.
 
Both electric fields and gravity fields, which rl.bhat mentions, are called conservative fields, meaning that the path taken from A to B does not matter. Friction is non-conservative, by counterexample. Since the electric field is conservative, you can describe its potential with a scalar rather than a vector. You're right that distance affects potential difference sometimes, but this is taken into account when you calculate the individual potentials V1 and V2. But because it's a scalar potential, the angle does not matter, only the distance.
 

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