Potential Energy of System (Uniform Rod and String)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the potential energy of a system consisting of a uniform rod and a string, utilizing the equations for gravitational potential energy (GPE) and elastic potential energy (EPE). The user derived the GPE as mgacosθ and the EPE as EPE = (0.5mgx^2)/4a, where x represents the extension of the string. The total potential energy V was expressed as V = -mga(cos θ - 3 + √(5 - 4 cos θ)) + constant. The user initially misinterpreted the constant term in the mark scheme, which was clarified as negligible.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


GPE = mgh, EPE = λx^2 / 2l


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm taking the horizontal line through A as the zero-level for potential energy. Clearly, the GPE of the rod is mgacosθ + constant. To find the elastic potential energy, I noted that:

EPE = \frac{0.5mgx^2}{4a}

I said that the extension x is given by the length of BC minus the natural length. To get BC, I used the cosine rule;

BC2 = 16a2 + 4a2 - 16a2cosθ

So BC = 2a√(5 - 4cosθ).

Then,

EPE = \frac{mg(2a \sqrt{5 - 4 \cos \theta} - 2a)^2}{8a}

Which, to me, simplifies to:

EPE = mga(3 - 2 \cos \theta - \sqrt{5 - 4 \cos \theta})

The total potential energy V can thus be expressed as:

V = -mga(\cos \theta - 3 + \sqrt{5 - 4 \cos \theta}) + \mathbb{constant}.

This is almost identical to what they've got, except without the 3. Where have I gone wrong?

Thanks.
 
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Sigh... just realized in the mark scheme they've counted the +3 as 'a constant' so negligible. Ugh. Sorry to whoever was reading this thread.
 

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