Potential for a charged ring and point charge system

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The problem involves a charged ring with a uniform charge density and a point charge being brought along the z-axis towards the center of the ring. The focus is on determining the increase in total potential energy of the system as the point charge approaches the charged ring.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the electric potential at the center of the charged ring and question whether it could be zero or infinite. There are suggestions to consider the electrostatic potential due to point sources and to integrate contributions from infinitesimal charge elements of the ring.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to calculate the potential and potential energy. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of point charge potential and integration over the ring, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the potential at the center.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of integrating electric potential from a continuous charge distribution and the assumptions involved in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A ring of radius R lies in the x-y plane with the center at the coordinate origin. The ring is uniformly charged with with a uniform charge density +λ.
a) Charge +q is brought along the z-axis from -∞ to the center of the ring. What is the increase in total potential energy of the system, ΔUa?

Homework Equations


ΔV=-∫E⋅dr
W=qΔV

The Attempt at a Solution


The professor mentioned that the solution is so simple that it doesn't even require us to integrate the electric field in order to find the solution. I'm just confused as to what exactly the electric potential would be at the center of the charged ring. I doubt it'd be zero or ∞, but I'm at a loss as to what else it could be. Any hints to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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You only need to know the electrostatic potential due to a point source.
 
What does that mean in regards to this situation specifically?
 
Besides calculating potential through the path integral of electric field, you can also integrate the potential due to point sources consisting the ring. In other words, divide the ring into infinitesimal charge element, use the formula of the electrostatic potential due to a point source, and integrate them over the entire ring.
For a simpler illustration, if you have two charge sitting in the vicinity of each other, then you bring in the third charge from infinity, the change in potential energy will be equal to the sum of energies between third-first and third-second pair of charges. Now extend this idea to a continuous charge distribution forming a circle.
 

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