Potential for a charged ring and point charge system

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the increase in total potential energy of a system consisting of a ring with a uniform charge density and a charge brought along the z-axis from -∞ to the center of the ring. The solution can be found by either integrating the electric field or dividing the ring into infinitesimal charge elements and using the formula for the electrostatic potential due to a point source. This concept can be extended to a continuous charge distribution forming a circle.
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Homework Statement


A ring of radius R lies in the x-y plane with the center at the coordinate origin. The ring is uniformly charged with with a uniform charge density +λ.
a) Charge +q is brought along the z-axis from -∞ to the center of the ring. What is the increase in total potential energy of the system, ΔUa?

Homework Equations


ΔV=-∫E⋅dr
W=qΔV

The Attempt at a Solution


The professor mentioned that the solution is so simple that it doesn't even require us to integrate the electric field in order to find the solution. I'm just confused as to what exactly the electric potential would be at the center of the charged ring. I doubt it'd be zero or ∞, but I'm at a loss as to what else it could be. Any hints to point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
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You only need to know the electrostatic potential due to a point source.
 
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What does that mean in regards to this situation specifically?
 
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Besides calculating potential through the path integral of electric field, you can also integrate the potential due to point sources consisting the ring. In other words, divide the ring into infinitesimal charge element, use the formula of the electrostatic potential due to a point source, and integrate them over the entire ring.
For a simpler illustration, if you have two charge sitting in the vicinity of each other, then you bring in the third charge from infinity, the change in potential energy will be equal to the sum of energies between third-first and third-second pair of charges. Now extend this idea to a continuous charge distribution forming a circle.
 

1. What is the relationship between a charged ring and a point charge?

The potential for a charged ring and a point charge system is influenced by the distance between the two charges. The closer the point charge is to the ring, the higher the potential will be.

2. How is the potential calculated for a charged ring and point charge system?

The potential is calculated using the formula V = kQ/r, where k is the Coulomb constant, Q is the charge of the point charge, and r is the distance between the point charge and the center of the ring.

3. What is the significance of having a charged ring in this system?

The charged ring acts as a source of electric field, which affects the potential at any point in the system. Without the charged ring, the potential at any point would only be influenced by the point charge.

4. Can the potential be negative in a charged ring and point charge system?

Yes, the potential can be negative in this system. This occurs when the point charge is placed inside the charged ring, causing the potential at that point to decrease due to the repulsive electric field from the ring.

5. How does the shape or size of the charged ring affect the potential?

The potential is directly proportional to the charge of the ring, so a larger or more highly charged ring will result in a higher potential. The shape of the ring may also affect the distribution of the electric field, which can impact the potential at different points in the system.

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