Potential of charged disk for x R

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the electric potential along the axis of a charged disk at a distance x from its center. The original poster expresses an intuitive understanding of the solution but is struggling with the mathematical derivation, particularly in simplifying the expression for the potential as x becomes much larger than the radius of the disk.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster questions how the expression \(\left[\sqrt{R^{2}+x^{2}}-x\right]\) simplifies to \(\left[x\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{R^{2}}{x^2}\right)-x\right]\) when x is much greater than R. Other participants suggest using the binomial approximation to facilitate this simplification.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the mathematical steps involved in the simplification process. Some have provided insights into using binomial expansion to approximate the square root, while the original poster is seeking clarification on these steps. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas without a definitive conclusion yet.

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The discussion is framed within the context of a homework problem, which may impose certain constraints on the methods and approaches that can be used. The original poster's confusion highlights potential assumptions about the behavior of the terms involved as x increases relative to R.

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I understand the answer to this part of the problem intuitively but there's definitely something in the math that I'm missing--

Homework Statement


Along the axis through the center of a charged disk, for a point P at a distance x from the center, the potential will be

[tex]\frac{Q}{2\pi\epsilon_{0}R^{2}}\left[\sqrt{R^{2}+x^{2}}-x\right][/tex]

Homework Equations


For x>>R, I'm supposed to understand that this reduces to

[tex]V\approx\frac{Q}{2\pi\epsilon_{0}R^{2}}\left[x\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{R^{2}}{x^2}\right)-x\right]=\frac{Q}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}x}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


As I said, I understand that this must work out, but I'm misunderstanding something about the math. It seems as though the term under the radical above ought to become just [tex]x^{2}[/tex] for x>>R, and thus inside the brackets x-x=0 and then V=0, which is untrue. Could someone please explain how [tex]\left[\sqrt{R^{2}+x^{2}}-x\right][/tex] becomes [tex]\left[x\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{R^{2}}{x^2}\right)-x\right][/tex] ?
 
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qamptr said:
Could someone please explain how [tex]\left[\sqrt{R^{2}+x^{2}}-x\right][/tex] becomes [tex]\left[x\left(1+\frac{1}{2}\frac{R^{2}}{x^2}\right)-x\right][/tex] ?

Bring the x^2 term outside the radical, then apply the general binomial expansion formula for (1+y)^(1/2) = 1 + (1/2)y - ...
 
Binomial approximation will get you there.

[tex]\sqrt{R^2+x^2}=\sqrt{\frac{R^2 x^2}{x^2}+x^2}[/tex]

Now use the approx
[tex]x \sqrt{\frac{R^2}{x^2}+1}=x(1+\frac{1}{2} \frac{R^2}{x^2})[/tex]
 
Mindscrape said:
Binomial approximation will get you there.

[tex]\sqrt{R^2+x^2}=\sqrt{\frac{R^2 x^2}{x^2}+x^2}[/tex]

Now use the approx
[tex]x \sqrt{\frac{R^2}{x^2}+1}=x(1+\frac{1}{2} \frac{R^2}{x^2})[/tex]

*thumps forehead* thanks.
 

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