Power Dissipation in Driven Oscillator: Calculate Average

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average power dissipated by the damping force in a driven oscillator, specifically focusing on the relationship between instantaneous power and average power over one cycle of motion. The problem involves concepts from oscillatory motion and power dissipation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the integral for average power and the definition of velocity in the context of oscillatory motion. There is a discussion about using complex versus real solutions for displacement and velocity, with attempts to clarify the correct form of velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on using real solutions for displacement and velocity. There is a lack of consensus on the correct interpretation of velocity components, and participants are questioning the definitions and relationships involved in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of using complex numbers in oscillatory motion and are attempting to reconcile this with the physical reality of the problem. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the quantities used are real and applicable to the physical scenario.

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Homework Statement


The instantaneous power dissipated by the damping force in a driven oscillator is [tex]P(t) = f_x v_x = -bv_x ^2[/tex].
Show that the average power dissipated during one cycle of steady-state motion is [tex]\overline{P} = -\frac{1}{2} b\omega^2 A^2[/tex], where [tex]\omega[/tex] is the driving frequency and [tex]A = |\underline{A}|[/tex] is the oscillation amplitude.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm attempting to just solve an integral for the average power:

[tex]\omega/2\pi*\int^{2\pi/\omega}_{0} -bv_x^2 dt[/tex]

But what is [tex]v_x[/tex]? If [tex]x(t) = \underline{A} e^{i \omega t}[/tex], then [tex]v(t) = i \omega \underline{A} e^{i \omega t} = i\omega x(t)[/tex]. So then I think that [tex]v_x = i\omega[/tex] but this doesn't give me the correct answer when put into the integral. Thanks for the help!
 
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Use the real solution,

[tex]x(t) = \underline{A} cos(\omega t)[/tex] or [tex]\underline{A} sin(\omega t)[/tex].

The world is real, the displacement or velocity of a vibrating body is a real quantity. The complex formalism is just a tool to make solutions easier. It works for linear relations only.

ehild
 
So then if I just use [tex]x(t) = A cos(\omega t)[/tex], then it follows that [tex]v(t) = -\omega A sin(\omega t)[/tex]. Is [tex]v_x[/tex] just dv/dt / dx/dt then? That would make it [tex]\omega cot(\omega t)[/tex] which also does not work in the integral
 
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I do not understand what you are doing. [tex]v_x[/tex] is the same as your v(t). The subscribe "x" means the x component of the velocity, and it is the time derivative of the x component of the displacement, x(t). That is, [tex]v_x = dx/dt[/tex] .

ehild
 

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