Power dissipation question I^2 R

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between current and power dissipation in electrical components, specifically using the equation P = I^2 R. Participants explore how varying current affects power and question the implications of Ohm's law in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of the relationship between power and current, questioning whether power is proportional to current or current squared. There are attempts to clarify the implications of using the equation P = I^2 R in different scenarios, particularly regarding constant voltage and resistance.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants seeking to clarify their understanding of the equations involved and how they relate to physical observations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the conditions under which these equations apply, particularly in relation to Ohm's law and the behavior of components under varying current.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the assumption that current is constant in certain contexts, and participants are exploring how this assumption affects their understanding of power dissipation. The discussion also highlights the importance of recognizing the dependencies between current, voltage, and resistance.

bonbon22
Messages
92
Reaction score
5
Homework Statement
Why is the graph of power dissipated against current a parabolic shape?

https://filestore.aqa.org.uk/sample-papers-and-mark-schemes/2018/june/AQA-74072-QP-JUN18.PDF


question 28 in the multiple choice section near the bottom of the pdf
Relevant Equations
P = I * V
P = I ^2 R
I understand that when using the equation I^2 * R that current is meant to be constant in each component? I got the idea from this video

So how can we use this equation to find the relationship between varying current against power? As the current is at a constant?...
 
Physics news on Phys.org
bonbon22 said:
Problem Statement: Why is the graph of power dissipated against current a parabolic shape?
P = I ^2 R
Uh, when you plot P=(I^2)R what do you think you SHOULD get?
 
phinds said:
Uh, when you plot P=(I^2)R what do you think you SHOULD get?

if i have the equation p =current * voltage here the current is proportional to the power ? not to the current ^2
 
bonbon22 said:
if i have the equation p =current * voltage here the current is proportional to the power ? not to the current ^2
You need to re-read the question
 
phinds said:
You need to re-read the question
let me rephrase it then...
why is power dissipated = current ^2 * resistance and not Power times Current ... ?
 
bonbon22 said:
let me rephrase it then...
why is power dissipated = current ^2 * resistance and not Power times Current ... ?

bonbon22 said:
Relevant Equations: P = I * V
 
i don't get what your saying m8
is power proportional to current
or is power proportional to current squared ?
 
P = I * V is all well and good. On the surface, that looks like power (P) should be proportional to current (I). But that only works as long as you do not look closely at V and simply pretend that it is a constant.

V = I * R

In the situation at hand, you should be holding R constant, systematically varying I, measuring the resulting P and letting V be whatever it needs to be.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: bonbon22 and PeroK
bonbon22 said:
i don't get what your saying m8
is power proportional to current
or is power proportional to current squared ?

To add to the above: when there are many variables, you can't simply say ##A## is proportional to ##B##, as it may depend on what else is held constant.

##P = IV = I^2R##

is actually as good an example of this as any.

Another example is the acceleration for uniform circular motion:

##a = \omega v = \omega^2 r##
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: bonbon22 and jbriggs444
  • #10
PeroK said:
##a = \omega v = \omega^2 r##
One of my favorites is the ##r## dependency in ##a=\frac{4 \pi^2 r}{t^2} = \frac{v^2}{r}##
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: bonbon22 and PeroK
  • #11
Sorry if this is obvious but just in case you are struggling with the differences...

bonbon22 said:
I understand that when using the equation I^2 * R that current is meant to be constant in each component? I got the idea from this video

In the video the resistors are connected to a constant voltage so the current flowing is indeed constant.

The problem statement says..

Which graph shows how power dissipated P varies with current I in a component that obeys ohm's law?

So here the words "varies with current" means the current is an input variable. If you were doing the lab experiment you would be changing the current somehow and measuring the power.

If the component obeys ohm's law like a resistor then varying the current also varies the voltage, so in the equation..

P=IV

Both I and V would be changing because V is a function of I.

If you double I then V also doubles and the power goes up four times.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: bonbon22

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
22
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
10
Views
3K
Replies
32
Views
9K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
5K