Power generated from magnet and coil

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of power generated from a magnet and coil setup, specifically in the context of a design project for a power generator similar to hand-powered flashlights. Participants explore various aspects of the design, including the materials used and the principles of electromagnetic induction.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their project involving a power generator using 45 AWG copper wire coiled 200 times and a N40 Neodymium magnet, seeking advice on power calculations.
  • Another participant suggests that the calculations depend on specific design parameters, such as the desired output and input tolerances, and emphasizes the importance of defining these parameters for clarity.
  • A third participant reiterates the initial query and suggests using the term "Dynamo" for further research, providing a link to a Wikipedia page for additional references and design equations.
  • A different participant mentions their own project on energy harvesting floors, indicating a similar interest in calculating power generation from a coil when a magnet moves through it, and notes potential applications for charging batteries or capacitors to power LEDs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying degrees of understanding and approaches to the problem, with no consensus reached on the specific calculations or design parameters necessary for the power generation setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the assumptions or specific parameters required for their designs, leading to uncertainty in the calculations discussed. The conversation reflects a mix of exploratory reasoning and technical inquiry without definitive conclusions.

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Hey guys,
I'm an engineering student and for my project i am planning to use a power generator based on magnet and coil like those hand power shake flashlights.

I am using gauge 45 AWG copper wires (0.051816mm) and coiled to have 200 coils. The coil size will be 2.5cm. The magnet i am using will be N40 Neodymium cylindrical magnet sized 0.5'' x0.5'' with rated residual flux density of 1.25T.

I am hoping you guys can give me some advice in calculating the power generated from this setup.

Things i tried: I used Faraday's law to find voltage. After that, i used resistivity of copper and found the resistance of the wire then used P=V^2/R to try finding power but it seem to be too high to be real.

Thanks

PS: this is not a homework problem. Its a design project and we decide to use this system. We are mechanical engineering students that's why we couldn't find any professors to help us.
 
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Welcome to PF;
So you have a permanent magnet that can slide through a coil - the idea being that you shake it or tip it.
Please note: a "design project" is homework. You have to do the designing yourself.

The sort of calculations you need to do will depend on the parameters of the design. What is it you need to design exactly? i.e. do you need to design the device to produce a specific output for a specific input - to specific tolerances?

Maybe it has to charge a battery to some level (i.e. so it runs an LED for a few hours) in some reasonable amount of time (i.e. before your arm gets too tired)?

When you know the design parameters, the rest will get a lot clearer.

I suspect you are best served by some sort of approximation.
 
xonsniper4 said:
Hey guys,
I'm an engineering student and for my project i am planning to use a power generator based on magnet and coil like those hand power shake flashlights.

I am using gauge 45 AWG copper wires (0.051816mm) and coiled to have 200 coils. The coil size will be 2.5cm. The magnet i am using will be N40 Neodymium cylindrical magnet sized 0.5'' x0.5'' with rated residual flux density of 1.25T.

I am hoping you guys can give me some advice in calculating the power generated from this setup.

Things i tried: I used Faraday's law to find voltage. After that, i used resistivity of copper and found the resistance of the wire then used P=V^2/R to try finding power but it seem to be too high to be real.

Thanks

PS: this is not a homework problem. Its a design project and we decide to use this system. We are mechanical engineering students that's why we couldn't find any professors to help us.

Welcome to the PF.

One keyword that you can use to look for references is "Dynamo". Here's the link to the wikipedia page, which has a number of references at the end of the article to help you find design equations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamo

:smile:
 
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I actually have to design a energy harvesting floors. Magnetism is just one of my ideas. I just need to find out how to calculate the power it can produce from the coil. how it works is the person walks on the tile and the magnet goes through the coil generating electricity. We might be using a battery or a capacitor to hold the charge to power LED lights. Just need to find out how to calculate the power it produces.
 

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