Power output of cyclist up slope at costant speed

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The problem involves a bicyclist coasting down a slope and determining the required power output to pedal up the same slope at a constant speed. The context includes concepts from physics related to forces, energy, and power, specifically focusing on the effects of gravity on a cyclist's motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to find the net force acting on the cyclist and question the relevance of potential energy in the context of the problem. There are attempts to derive relationships between forces and power output, as well as clarifications on the use of trigonometric functions in calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between speed, angle, and height change, while others are questioning the mathematical approach and the use of specific trigonometric functions in their calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding the height change, which some participants indicate is necessary for calculating potential energy. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the appropriate formulas and their application in this scenario.

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Homework Statement



A bicyclist coasts down a 7.0 degree slope at a steady speed of 5.0 m/s. Assuming a total mass of 75 kg (bicycle plus rider), what must the cyclist's power output be to pedal up the same slope at the same speed?

Homework Equations


P=Fvcos\theta
K=\frac{1}{2}mv^2
F_g=mg



The Attempt at a Solution



I need to find the net force but since there is presumably no acceleration (constant velocity of 5.0 m/s) the only force is the force to overcome gravity and maintain a constant speed of 5.0 m/s. Correct?

I'm missing a formula somewhere I think. How do I find the force? Once I have that I can determine the Power using the first formula.
 
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Don't worry about force. When he climbs his potential energy changes.
 
Potential energy isn't covered until the next chapter. Also, I don't know the height, so how would I find PE?
 
Speed and angle give you height change per second.
 
What about

F_biker=mg\sin\theta => (75)(9.8)(\sin7)=9.0*10^1

P=(90)(5.0)(\cos7)=4.47*10^2 => 4.5*10^2 = 450W
 
Why do you have cos(7)? It doesn't change the answer much but I don't think it should be there.
 
I thought you needed it because theta is the angle between the force vector and the velocity vector.

No?

It changes the answer a lot without it. 90*50 = 4.5*10^3 I got 4.5*10^2
 
Check your math - cos(7) is 0.993, it can't change the answer tenfold. You have already taken care of the angle calculating vertical component of the force, assuming no friction vertical component is the only one doing work.
 

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