What Is the Cyclist's Power Output to Climb a 7.0 Degree Hill at 5.0 m/s?

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The discussion centers around calculating the power output required for a cyclist to climb a 7.0-degree hill at a speed of 5.0 m/s, given a total mass of 75 kg for the bicycle and rider. Participants are examining the relationship between force, work, and power in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of power and its relation to work done over time. Some attempt to apply formulas for power and force but arrive at different results, leading to questions about the calculations and assumptions made.

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There is an active exploration of the problem, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the discrepancies between their results and the book's answer. Some guidance has been offered regarding the forces involved when coasting downhill versus climbing, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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Participants note the importance of considering forces such as friction and gravity when analyzing the situation. There is acknowledgment of the cyclist's constant speed while coasting downhill, which raises questions about net forces acting on the cyclist.

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A bicyclist coasts down a 7.0 degree hill at a steady speed of 5.0 m/s. Assuming a total mass of 75kg (bicycle plus rider), what must be the cyclist's power output to climb the same hill at the same speed?

I got 90N * 5.0 m/s = 450W but that is not the answer

The book says 9.0 * 10^2 W
i am sorry for the trouble because this question has already been asked.
please can somebody help me coz i didnt understand the one explained b4?
 
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First start of with the definition of power. Power is defined as work per unit time. In other words, how much work does this guy have to do to go up this incline every single second?
 
yea, i first used the formula and got 450 W, but the answer is 900 W, i don't know why i can't get 900W as the answer.
 
You should say what formula you used and what it means. There are two ways that you can do this. Both lead to your answer, which I believe is correct if you have been given the right information.

One way:
Power = \frac{dW}{dt} = \frac{d}{dt}(F*x) = F \frac{dx}{dt}
This should be familiar
P = Fv
Power, given a constant force, is simply the product of force and velocity.
P = mgsin(\theta)*v

Work more directly
P = \frac{dW}{dt}
Find how much work happens in one second
W/sec = F \cdot ds/sec
The force and displacement are in the same direction, so the dot prod gives
W/sec = F*distance/sec
At this point it is clear the two are really the same
dist = speed * time = 5m/s * 1 sec = 5m
Then plug in and get the same answer
W/sec = mgsin\theta * 5m/s = P
 
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thanks for the reply,
when i use that formula i get the answer as 450W but the actual answer of the book is 900W. why is it like that? please help
 
The book is correct. You are missing something.

First, he coasts downhill with a constant speed.
Normally he should be accelerating downhill because the horizontal component of the force of gravity acts on him. But he is not accelerating, he is going with a constant speed. Therefore, there must be no net force acting on him:
Fn=Fgy
and
Ff=Fgx
So there is force of friction acting on him going downhill. It is equal to the horizontal component of the force of gravity. Ff = Fgx = mg * sin 7 = 89.57 N.
To go up at the same constant speed, he has to exert a force equal to Ff + Fgx. Again, there should be no net force acting on him, as the speed is constant.
So force to go up is F = Ff + Fgx = Ff + mg * sin 7 = 179.15 N.
The power is F * v = 896 = 900 W.
 
thankyou very much for the help. i understood my mistake. it was a great help.
 

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