Power rating of a heater in the same outlet as a hair dryer

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The problem involves calculating the power rating of a heater that is plugged into the same outlet as an 800-W hair dryer, given the total rms current drawn is 16.7A. The context is electrical power and circuit analysis, specifically focusing on parallel circuits and rms values.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the heater and hair dryer in terms of parallel circuits, questioning the assumptions about current and voltage. There are attempts to calculate rms current and power using given equations, with some participants suggesting avoiding conversions between average and peak values.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for the rms current of the hair dryer and the heater, leading to a proposed power rating for the heater. There is an ongoing exploration of the correctness of these calculations, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of circuit analysis, including assumptions about how devices share current in a parallel configuration. There is a focus on ensuring the calculations align with the constraints of the problem, such as the total current and voltage ratings.

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Homework Statement


A heater is plugged into the same 120-V AC outlet as an 800-W hair dryer. If the total rms current drawn is 16.7A, then calculate the power rating of the heater.


Homework Equations


Pav=\frac{1}{2}I2peakR


The Attempt at a Solution


Irms=Ipeak/\sqrt{2}
So, Ipeak=16.7A x \sqrt{2}
Solving for R in the Pav equation: 2Pav/I2peak=R
(2 x 800W)/(16.7A x \sqrt{2})2= 2.87 ohms.

I'm assuming that in an outlet, the heater and the dryer are in parallel, so V=V1=V2 and Itotal=I1+I2
Using ohms law V/R=I, 120V/2.86 ohms= 41.81 A. Since this is too high, I know I'm looking at this problem completely wrong. I wanted to use that to find I2, solve for R, and find the power of the heater.
 
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I think you can avoid the average and peak conversions and stick to rms values.

What's the rms current drawn by the hair dryer if it uses 800W at 120V (rms)?
 
Okay, so I use PavrmsIrms
Pavrms=800W/120V=6.67A. The rms current of the heater would be 16.7A-6.67A= 10.03A. Thus, the power rating of the heater would be 120V x 10.03A= 1203.6W. Is that correct?
 
OmegaFury said:
Okay, so I use PavrmsIrms
Pavrms=800W/120V=6.67A. The rms current of the heater would be 16.7A-6.67A= 10.03A. Thus, the power rating of the heater would be 120V x 10.03A= 1203.6W. Is that correct?

It looks good :smile:
 
Thanks for the help :smile:
 

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