Calculating Heat Absorbed & Estimating Power Rating of Electric Heater

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The discussion revolves around calculating the heat absorbed by air passing over an electric heater and estimating the power rating of the heater. The problem involves concepts from thermodynamics and fluid mechanics, specifically related to heat transfer and energy calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the equations used for calculating power and energy, including P=E/t and E=mcΔθ. There are attempts to substitute values and derive results for both parts of the problem. Some participants question the units used for specific heat capacity and the density of air, suggesting potential errors in unit conversions.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations and assumptions made by the original poster. Some participants have provided guidance on checking unit consistency and have pointed out discrepancies in the density of air. While some answers have been proposed, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original calculations.

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Participants note that the original poster's calculations led to significantly different results compared to the textbook answers, raising questions about the validity of the assumptions and the provided data. The discussion highlights the importance of accurate unit conversions and understanding the physical properties of air.

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the question states exactly:

Air passes over an electric heater at a steady rate of 2500 cubic centimeters per second. the steady inlet flow temperature of the air is 20 degree celsius and the steady outlet temperature is 40 degree celsius.
part a. what is the heat absorbed by the air passsing over the heater in 2 hours
part b. obtain an estimate power rating of the heater. is this too high or too low? explain.
[density of air = 1.2kg/cm^3; specific heat capacity of air= 1000Jkgcm^-3]




the equations i used were P=E/t; E=mcΔθ; ρ=m/V



for part a: After some substitutions i said P= (ρVcΔθ)/(t) where V/t = 2500cm^3s^-1
then i multiply my answer from that by 7200seconds and said that was the heat absorbed.

for part b: i just took the answer from P= (ρVcΔθ)/(t) and said that was the estimated power rating. my answers were P= 60MW and E=4.32 × 10^11 J

the text however says the answer was P= 60W and E=4.32×10^5 J. i assumed my answer was correct and the book had a mistake. when i showed my teacher however she said it was wrong to try again but i stuck.
 
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Hello KevinO. Welcome to Physics Forums.

KevinO said:
the question states exactly:

Air passes over an electric heater at a steady rate of 2500 cubic centimeters per second. the steady inlet flow temperature of the air is 20 degree celsius and the steady outlet temperature is 40 degree celsius.
part a. what is the heat absorbed by the air passsing over the heater in 2 hours
part b. obtain an estimate power rating of the heater. is this too high or too low? explain.
[density of air = 1.2kg/cm^3; specific heat capacity of air= 1000Jkgcm^-3]
The units attached to the specific heat capacity for air look mighty suspicious. Should be J/(K*kg) I'd think.
the equations i used were P=E/t; E=mcΔθ; ρ=m/V



for part a: After some substitutions i said P= (ρVcΔθ)/(t) where V/t = 2500cm^3s^-1
then i multiply my answer from that by 7200seconds and said that was the heat absorbed.
I think it would be helpful if you were to expand on that ad show more details of your work. Could be you've got a problem with unit conversions...
for part b: i just took the answer from P= (ρVcΔθ)/(t) and said that was the estimated power rating. my answers were P= 60MW and E=4.32 × 10^11 J

the text however says the answer was P= 60W and E=4.32×10^5 J. i assumed my answer was correct and the book had a mistake. when i showed my teacher however she said it was wrong to try again but i stuck.

Yup, the books answers look okay to me, too.
 
thank you for the welcome:
Yes the units for it was suppose to be J/(K*kg)
my solution was:
P=ρVc∆θ/t=[1.2kg/(cm^3)×2500cm^3×1000J/(kg*K)×20K]/1s=6.0×10^7 J/(s)
P*t= E = 6.0×10^7 J/s × 7200s = 4.32×10^11 J
 
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Okay, your density for air is not correct (I should have spotted that earlier). If air had a mass of 1.2 kg for every cubic centimeter (about the size of a sugar cube), we'd be swimming, not walking!

The density of air should be 1.2 kg per cubic meter :wink:
 
Thank you it works out great now.I checked the book to make sure i did not type the units wrong but the book has it with the wrong units. She should have point that out though instead of making me frustrated thinking i doing something wrong. thanks again.
 

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