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The discussion revolves around rewriting the expression 16sin²x cos²x in terms of the first power of cosine. Participants express confusion over the correct application of trigonometric identities and logarithmic properties. One user attempts to simplify the expression but struggles to arrive at the expected answer of 2 - 2cos4x, while another user points out errors in the logarithmic manipulation. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying mathematical identities and properties to avoid mistakes in problem-solving. Overall, the thread emphasizes the need for clarity in understanding trigonometric and logarithmic functions.
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Homework Statement


16sin2xcos2x

Rewrite expression in terms of the first power of cosine.


Homework Equations


sin2u = 1-cos2u / 2
cos2u = 1+cos2u /2

The Attempt at a Solution



16sin2xcos2x
= 16 (1-cos2u / 2)(1+cos2u/2)
= 16/4 ( 1 + cos2u - cos2u - cos24u)
= 16/4 (1 - (1 + cos8u) / 2 )

There is something obviously wrong because the answer is 2-2cos4x but I can't seem to get it. :confused:

I'm not too sure how to multiply angles such as cos2u(cos2u).

Thanks in advance, I have a final tomorrow and aiming for perfection. =D

Homework Statement


ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x

The Attempt at a Solution



ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x
= eln x+5 - eln x-3= eln x
= (x+5) - (x - 3) = x
= x + 5 - x + 3 = x
= x = 8

Now the answer key from my professor says x = 5.

Is it the professor's mistake or do I have to go back to high school lol.
 
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16sin2x cos2x = 4 * (4sin2x cos2x)
= 4 * (2 * sinx * cosx)2
Can you do something with that?
 
Nano-Passion said:

Homework Statement


16sin2xcos2x

Rewrite expression in terms of the first power of cosine.


Homework Equations


sin2u = 1-cos2u / 2
cos2u = 1+cos2u /2

The Attempt at a Solution



16sin2xcos2x
= 16 (1-cos2u / 2)(1+cos2u/2)
= 16/4 ( 1 + cos2u - cos2u - cos24u)
= 16/4 (1 - (1 + cos8u) / 2 )

There is something obviously wrong because the answer is 2-2cos4x but I can't seem to get it. :confused:

I'm not too sure how to multiply angles such as cos2u(cos2u).

Thanks in advance, I have a final tomorrow and aiming for perfection. =D

Homework Statement


ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x

The Attempt at a Solution



ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x
= eln x+5 - eln x-3= eln x
The step above is incorrect - you can't do that. What you should do instead is combine the two terms on the left using the properties of logs; namely, the one about ln (A/B) = ln A - ln B.
Nano-Passion said:
= (x+5) - (x - 3) = x
= x + 5 - x + 3 = x
= x = 8

Now the answer key from my professor says x = 5.

Is it the professor's mistake or do I have to go back to high school lol.
 
cos(2u)*cos(2u)=cos^2(2u), not cos^2(4u).
 
Dick said:
cos(2u)*cos(2u)=cos^2(2u), not cos^2(4u).

Thats the problem as I've stated in my post. I don't know how to multiply them. =/

I can guess that cos2u * cos2u - cos22u but then I don't know the steps or reasoning into it. =/
 


Mark44 said:
16sin2x cos2x = 4 * (4sin2x cos2x)
= 4 * (2 * sinx * cosx)2
Can you do something with that?

According to Double-Angle Forumula

2sinucosu = 2sinu

so..

4 (2sinxcosx)2
= 4 (sin2u)2
= 4(sin24u)
= 4 ( (1 - cos 4u) / 2)
= 2 (1 - cos4u)
= 2 - 2cos4x

But I don't see how you got 16sin2x cos 2x = 4 (4sin2x cos 2x) because when you distribute that then you get...

4(4sin^2x cos^2x)
= 16sin^2x 4 cos^2x) which doesn't equal our original expression of 16sin^2x cos^2x
 
Mark44 said:
The step above is incorrect - you can't do that. What you should do instead is combine the two terms on the left using the properties of logs; namely, the one about ln (A/B) = ln A - ln B.

Ugh, I have no idea on how to follow up without violating some basic arithmetic laws on...

ln (x+5) / ln (x-3) = ln x
:confused:
 
Nano-Passion said:
Ugh, I have no idea on how to follow up without violating some basic arithmetic laws on...

ln (x+5) / ln (x-3) = ln x
:confused:

It's not ln(x+5)/ln(x-3). It's ln((x+5)/(x-3)), and that's one of the properties of logarithms.
 
Nano-Passion said:
Thats the problem as I've stated in my post. I don't know how to multiply them. =/

I can guess that cos2u * cos2u - cos22u but then I don't know the steps or reasoning into it. =/

There aren't any steps. A thing times itself is the thing squared. x*x=x^2. cos(2x)*cos(2x)=cos^2(2x).
 
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Nano-Passion said:
According to Double-Angle Forumula

2sinucosu = 2sinu
This is wrong right out of the gate. The formula is
2sinu cosu = sin(2u) \neq 2 sin u.
Nano-Passion said:
so..

4 (2sinxcosx)2
= 4 (sin2u)2
= 4(sin24u)
= 4 ( (1 - cos 4u) / 2)
= 2 (1 - cos4u)
= 2 - 2cos4x

But I don't see how you got 16sin2x cos 2x = 4 (4sin2x cos 2x) because when you distribute that then you get...

4(4sin^2x cos^2x)
= 16sin^2x 4 cos^2x) which doesn't equal our original expression of 16sin^2x cos^2x
 

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