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The discussion revolves around rewriting trigonometric expressions and solving logarithmic equations. The first problem involves the expression 16sin2xcos2x and the goal is to rewrite it in terms of the first power of cosine. The second problem concerns the equation ln(x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x, where participants are questioning the correctness of their solutions compared to an answer key.

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  • Participants explore various methods to manipulate the trigonometric expression, with some questioning their multiplication of angles and the application of double-angle formulas. Others express confusion over logarithmic properties and the steps taken to simplify the equation.

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There are multiple interpretations of the trigonometric problem, with some participants offering alternative approaches and questioning assumptions about the operations involved. The logarithmic problem has led to discussions about the correct application of logarithmic properties, with no clear consensus on the resolution of the discrepancies between participants' solutions and the professor's answer key.

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Participants mention a looming final exam, indicating a time constraint that may affect their problem-solving approaches. There is also uncertainty about the correctness of their methods and results, particularly in relation to the professor's provided answers.

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Homework Statement


16sin2xcos2x

Rewrite expression in terms of the first power of cosine.


Homework Equations


sin2u = 1-cos2u / 2
cos2u = 1+cos2u /2

The Attempt at a Solution



16sin2xcos2x
= 16 (1-cos2u / 2)(1+cos2u/2)
= 16/4 ( 1 + cos2u - cos2u - cos24u)
= 16/4 (1 - (1 + cos8u) / 2 )

There is something obviously wrong because the answer is 2-2cos4x but I can't seem to get it. :confused:

I'm not too sure how to multiply angles such as cos2u(cos2u).

Thanks in advance, I have a final tomorrow and aiming for perfection. =D

Homework Statement


ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x

The Attempt at a Solution



ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x
= eln x+5 - eln x-3= eln x
= (x+5) - (x - 3) = x
= x + 5 - x + 3 = x
= x = 8

Now the answer key from my professor says x = 5.

Is it the professor's mistake or do I have to go back to high school lol.
 
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16sin2x cos2x = 4 * (4sin2x cos2x)
= 4 * (2 * sinx * cosx)2
Can you do something with that?
 
Nano-Passion said:

Homework Statement


16sin2xcos2x

Rewrite expression in terms of the first power of cosine.


Homework Equations


sin2u = 1-cos2u / 2
cos2u = 1+cos2u /2

The Attempt at a Solution



16sin2xcos2x
= 16 (1-cos2u / 2)(1+cos2u/2)
= 16/4 ( 1 + cos2u - cos2u - cos24u)
= 16/4 (1 - (1 + cos8u) / 2 )

There is something obviously wrong because the answer is 2-2cos4x but I can't seem to get it. :confused:

I'm not too sure how to multiply angles such as cos2u(cos2u).

Thanks in advance, I have a final tomorrow and aiming for perfection. =D

Homework Statement


ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x

The Attempt at a Solution



ln (x+5) - ln(x-3) = ln x
= eln x+5 - eln x-3= eln x
The step above is incorrect - you can't do that. What you should do instead is combine the two terms on the left using the properties of logs; namely, the one about ln (A/B) = ln A - ln B.
Nano-Passion said:
= (x+5) - (x - 3) = x
= x + 5 - x + 3 = x
= x = 8

Now the answer key from my professor says x = 5.

Is it the professor's mistake or do I have to go back to high school lol.
 
cos(2u)*cos(2u)=cos^2(2u), not cos^2(4u).
 
Dick said:
cos(2u)*cos(2u)=cos^2(2u), not cos^2(4u).

Thats the problem as I've stated in my post. I don't know how to multiply them. =/

I can guess that cos2u * cos2u - cos22u but then I don't know the steps or reasoning into it. =/
 


Mark44 said:
16sin2x cos2x = 4 * (4sin2x cos2x)
= 4 * (2 * sinx * cosx)2
Can you do something with that?

According to Double-Angle Forumula

2sinucosu = 2sinu

so..

4 (2sinxcosx)2
= 4 (sin2u)2
= 4(sin24u)
= 4 ( (1 - cos 4u) / 2)
= 2 (1 - cos4u)
= 2 - 2cos4x

But I don't see how you got 16sin2x cos 2x = 4 (4sin2x cos 2x) because when you distribute that then you get...

4(4sin^2x cos^2x)
= 16sin^2x 4 cos^2x) which doesn't equal our original expression of 16sin^2x cos^2x
 
Mark44 said:
The step above is incorrect - you can't do that. What you should do instead is combine the two terms on the left using the properties of logs; namely, the one about ln (A/B) = ln A - ln B.

Ugh, I have no idea on how to follow up without violating some basic arithmetic laws on...

ln (x+5) / ln (x-3) = ln x
:confused:
 
Nano-Passion said:
Ugh, I have no idea on how to follow up without violating some basic arithmetic laws on...

ln (x+5) / ln (x-3) = ln x
:confused:

It's not ln(x+5)/ln(x-3). It's ln((x+5)/(x-3)), and that's one of the properties of logarithms.
 
Nano-Passion said:
Thats the problem as I've stated in my post. I don't know how to multiply them. =/

I can guess that cos2u * cos2u - cos22u but then I don't know the steps or reasoning into it. =/

There aren't any steps. A thing times itself is the thing squared. x*x=x^2. cos(2x)*cos(2x)=cos^2(2x).
 
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Nano-Passion said:
According to Double-Angle Forumula

2sinucosu = 2sinu
This is wrong right out of the gate. The formula is
2sinu cosu = sin(2u) [itex]\neq[/itex] 2 sin u.
Nano-Passion said:
so..

4 (2sinxcosx)2
= 4 (sin2u)2
= 4(sin24u)
= 4 ( (1 - cos 4u) / 2)
= 2 (1 - cos4u)
= 2 - 2cos4x

But I don't see how you got 16sin2x cos 2x = 4 (4sin2x cos 2x) because when you distribute that then you get...

4(4sin^2x cos^2x)
= 16sin^2x 4 cos^2x) which doesn't equal our original expression of 16sin^2x cos^2x
 

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