Power required the support a helicopter

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The problem involves calculating the power required to support a helicopter, given its mass, the radius of the air being displaced, and the density of the air. The original poster has calculated the downward velocity of the air but is struggling with the power calculation and the reasoning behind a specific formula presented in an answer sheet.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the formula for power presented in the answer sheet, questioning why velocity is raised to the third power. Other participants suggest using the impulse-momentum equation and highlight the importance of demonstrating problem-solving attempts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the impulse-momentum equation, but there is no consensus on how to proceed with the power calculation or the reasoning behind the formula.

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The original poster has provided a specific value for the downward velocity but is seeking clarification on the power calculation. There is an emphasis on the requirement to demonstrate attempts at solving the problem as per forum rules.

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A rescue helicopter of mass 810 kg, supports itself in a stationary position by imparting
a downward velocity, v, to the air in a circle of radius 4.0 m. The density of the air is
1.20 kg m-3.

Calculate:
(i) the value of v
(ii) the power, P, required to support the helicopter


So, I do have the solution to part one, which is 11.5 ms-1. However, the solution for ii eludes me. The answer sheet does something weird:

Power = 0.5(pi*4^2)(1.2)v^3. From the first term I'm guessing they're using E=.5mv^2, but why is the velocity raised to the third?
 
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"I'm guessing" is not the way to solve problems in physics.

This problem can be solved by using the impulse-momentum equation.
 
voko said:
"I'm guessing" is not the way to solve problems in physics.

This problem can be solved by using the impulse-momentum equation.

That's why I asked it, you arrogant person.
 
I do not think I was or am being arrogant. I pointed out that guessing how the problem is solved from the answer, as you tried to, is almost never productive.

On the other hand, you did not demonstrate any other attempt at solving the problem, as is required in this forum.
 
voko said:
I do not think I was or am being arrogant. I pointed out that guessing how the problem is solved from the answer, as you tried to, is almost never productive.

On the other hand, you did not demonstrate any other attempt at solving the problem, as is required in this forum.

My attempt was just using kinetic energy, and my question was why the answer sheet has taken velocity to the third power, which hasn't been answered yet.
 
What is the total mass of the air propelled by the helicopter in one second? What is the kinetic energy of that mass?
 

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