Power series solution for differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation using power series techniques after substituting \( x \) with \( x + 1 \). The original equation involves a fluxional notation for the derivative and requires manipulation to express the solution in terms of a power series.

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  • The original poster attempts to rewrite the differential equation and substitute variables, exploring the implications of this substitution on the power series representation. Some participants suggest simplifying the notation and factoring expressions, while others question the validity of the approach and whether the results align with expectations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on attempts and suggesting alternative methods. There is a mix of verification requests and expressions of uncertainty regarding the correctness of the approaches taken. No consensus has been reached on the final form of the solution or the necessity of further manipulation.

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Participants note the complexity of expanding the power series and the potential challenges in reverting back to the original variable \( x \). There is also mention of the expectations for the solution format and the implications of integrating the right-hand side of the equation.

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Homework Statement


Solve the fluxional equation (y with a dot on top)/(x with a dot on top) = 2/x + 3 - x^2 by first replacing x by (x + 1) and then using power series techniques.

Homework Equations



dy/dx = 2/x + 3 - x^2

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I believe the fluxional (y with a dot on top)/(x with a dot on top) was just Newton's language and notation for the derivative dy/dx, so I rewrote the equation as 2 above. Then I replaced x by (x + 1) like it says, getting: dy/d(x+1) = 2/(x+1) + 3 - (x+1)^2
From there, I attempted to set it equal to the sigma series for the derivative of a power series, so: 2/(x+1) + 3 - (x+1)^2 = Sigma n*a_sub_n*(x+1)^(n-1) from n=1 to infinity = a_sub_1 + 2*a_sub_2*(x+1)+ 3*a_sub_3*(x+1)^2 + 4*a_sub_4*(x+1)^3 + ...
I don't know where to go from there. I'm not even sure how the substitution helps. Since there is no y or higher order derivative, I see no basis to compare series coefficients.

Any help would be appreciated!
 
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Hi Jen_Jer_888! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)

First, write z instead of (x+1), it's much easier!

Second, have you noticed that you can easily factor x3 - 3x - 2 ? :wink:
 
Thank you for the response! Here is my updated attempt. Can you verify it or explain if I go wrong?
Let z = x+1.
dy/dx = 2/x + 3 - x2 => x(dy/dx) = 2+ 3x - x3 => -x(dy/dx) = x3 - 3x - 2.
This factors giving -x(dy/dx) = (x+1)2(x-2)
So dy/dx = [(x+1)2(x-2)]/(-x).
So dy/dx = [z2(z-3)]/(-(z-1))
Next I did polynomial long division for (z3 - 3z2)/(-z + 1) and I got this: -z2 + 2z + 2 Remainder -2 or -z2 + 2z + 2 + -2/(-z+1)

Then I did long division for the remainder. Flipping the bottom around, I did -2/(1-z) and got this: -2 - 2z - 2z2 - 2z3 - 2z4 + ...

Plugging into the original quotient, I get -3z2 - 2z3 - 2z4 - 2z5 + ...

Next, I lined up coefficients with those of the first derivative of the power series [itex]\sum[/itex] anzn, since we are assuming a power series solution. That gives a1 + 2a2z + 3a3z2 + 4a4z3 + ... = -3z2 - 2z3 - 2z4 - 2z5 + ...

Thus, a1 = 0, a2 = 0, a3 = -1, a4 = -2/4, a5 = -2/5, a6 = -2/6, a7 = -2/7 and so on

Plugging those into the power series for y gives: y = -z3 - (2/4)z4 - (2/5)z5 - (2/6)z6 - (2/7)z7 + ...

Is this an acceptable answer to the original question? Have I gone wrong anywhere?
I really appreciate your help!
 
After I get y = -z3 - (2/4)z4 - (2/5)z5 - (2/6)z6 - (2/7)z7 + ... do I need to plug (x+1) back in and get y in terms of x?

Can I replace x + 1 with x now and get y = -x3 - (2/4)x4 - (2/5)x5 - (2/6)x6 - (2/7)x7 + ...

If not, expanding each of those with x + 1 still in there would be a huge pain! Or would there be an easy way to do that?
 
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Hi Jen_Jer_888! :smile:

I'm really not sure what they're expecting you to do :confused:
Jen_Jer_888 said:
Solve the fluxional equation (y with a dot on top)/(x with a dot on top) = 2/x + 3 - x^2 by first replacing x by (x + 1) and then using power series techniques.

… the obvious way of solving this is simply to integrate the RHS, which gives you a cubic polynomial in x minus 2ln(x),

and ln(x) = ln(1-z) = -(z + z2/2 + z3/3 + … )

= -((1+x) + (1+x)2/2 + (1+x)3/3 + … ).

Adding that to the polynomial doesn't seem to give the same result as you have, but I can't see the actual mistake. :redface:

(And I've no idea whether they intend you to expand all those brackets … but personally I wouldn't.)​
 

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