Powerline Internet: Bypassing High Inductance tranformers using ultrasound

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This discussion centers on the feasibility of using ultrasound to bypass high inductance transformers in powerline communication systems. The concept involves sending ultrasound frequencies over AC/DC outlets to potentially influence the transformer's magnetic field and allow higher frequency signals (1 GHz to 8 GHz) to pass through. However, it is established that transformers exhibit significant losses at high frequencies, and while Broadband over Power Lines (BPL) operates at 10-30 MHz, it is inefficient due to the design limitations of power lines. Modifications to minimize losses would introduce health and safety concerns.

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  • Understanding of powerline communication systems, specifically Broadband over Power Lines (BPL).
  • Knowledge of transformer operation and high-frequency signal behavior.
  • Familiarity with ultrasound technology and its applications in energy transfer.
  • Basic principles of electromagnetic induction and filtering techniques.
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Hi everyone. I was wondering about something I just read with wireless energy transfer and resonant energy transfer on Wikipedia.org. What if you send a large amount of ultrasound tuned to a certain frequency over the AC/DC outlet plug. Would it get to the Transformer? Would the transformer's inductor and the magnetic field it creates oscillate at the frequency of the ultrasound? Is there some way possible to bypass a high-pass filter(50-100hz transformer) to send much higher frequency signals(above 1ghz-8ghz+) over the powerline?
If there is a signal on the line at said frequency will the tuned(via ultrasound vibrating the inductors at the same frequency of the carrier) transformer's magnetic field induct the carrier signal past the transformer?
 
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Power line carrier systems have been around for a long time. In the case of BPL (Broadband over Power Lines), couplers are used to bypass transformers and repeaters are used to compensated for line losses. BPL uses frequencies higher than ultra sound, usually around 10 - 30 mhz. Because power lines are not designed to carry frequencies in this range they are very inefficient and radiate much of their energy.
 
I think you must be referring to RF electrical signals with frequencies in excess of 20kHz rather than "ultrasound". Unfortunately, there tend to be high losses in transformers at such high frequencies (and all the way up). It is possible to minimise the loss at a specific frequency, with appropriate filtering and a bypass around a transformer but this would require a 'special' modification which would introduce health and safety issues.
 

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