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The discussion revolves around the manipulation of expressions involving powers of sums and fractional exponents, specifically focusing on the expression (x + 5) raised to a power and the evaluation of negative bases with fractional exponents.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand how to expand (x + 5) raised to the third power and seeks clarification on evaluating expressions with fractional exponents, particularly with negative bases. Participants explore different methods for handling these expressions and question the need for complex numbers in certain evaluations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's questions, providing various perspectives on the problems. Some suggest simpler approaches to the fractional exponent problem, while others delve into the complexities of negative bases and their implications in different mathematical contexts. There is no explicit consensus on the necessity of complex numbers, indicating a productive exploration of differing viewpoints.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the treatment of negative bases with fractional exponents and the implications of negative exponents in general. The discussion also hints at varying preferences for simplifying expressions, which may influence the approaches taken by participants.

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I was never taught how to do this.
How do i solve this. (x + 5)3 ?
I'm thinking it's 15x?

And for fractional exponenets.
(-27)-2/3 =? and how do i solve for it W/O parenthesis -27-2/3 =?

And if i get a mixed fractions like http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6532/bb0fx.gif ?[/URL]
 
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for your first problem, as it stands
(x + 5)3 = 3x + 15
but i think you meant to say
(x+5)^3
you can do this by applying the following twice
(a+b)^2=a^2+2ab+b^2

(a+b)^3=a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3
so
(x+5)^3=x^3+15x^2+75x+125
 
You first problem is a bit strange as it just yields solutions at x=-5

Your second question can be broken down a bit, basically by employing

x^{ab}=(x^a)^b and x^{-a}=1/x^a

i.e.

(-27)^{-2/3}=(-1)^{-2/3}(27)^{-2/3}=(-1)^{-2/3}((27)^{-2})^{1/3}=(-1)^{-2/3}((1/27)^2)^{1/3}=(-1)^{-2/3}(1/729)^{1/3}=(-1)^{-2/3}(1/9)

The (-1)^{-2/3} bit requires you to know a bit about complex numbers too...
 
J77, why complicate the simple?

The second question doesn't require any knowledge about complex numbers, since (-1)-2/3 has an odd number in the denominator of the exponent.

My experience is that people prefer to work with smaller numbers whenever possible. But maybe that's just me projecting my own preference onto others... (1/27)2/3 is a little easier to work with if you take the cube root before squaring - (1/3)2 = 1/9. Easier to take the cube root of 27 than the cube root of 729. Also easier to square 3 than to square 27.

About your third question, Richay, a negative exponent means that number "wants" to be on the other side of the fraction bar. E.g. 2-3 = 1/23. 1/5-2 = 52. If the exponents are negative fractions, the same rule applies. You just have one extra step you need to take when evaluating the expression.
 
Nimz:
And, what, may I ask, is
(-1)^{-\frac{4}{6}}
equal to?
Do you still think that no knowledge of complex numbers is needed?
 
Exactly, last time I looked...

-1=e^{i\pi}

ie.

(-1)^{-2/3}=e^{-2i\pi/3}=\cos(2\pi/3)-i\sin(2\pi/3)\approx-0.5-i0.866
 
Actually

-1=e^{i\left(2k+1\right)\pi} , \forall{k\in\mathbb{Z}}

Daniel.
 
My bad. I may have assumed too much in making the simplification of selecting k=1 (mod 3) in the formula -1=ei(2k+1)pi. Incidentally, that is the same assumption made when making y=x1/(2n+1) a function over the domain of all reals.

As to what (-1)-4/6 equals, it is precisely (-1)-2/3 :biggrin: (which can be anyone of the three cube roots of unity).

Back to the OP's questions, in general, (-a)b isn't the same as -ab, even with whole exponents. The former expression indicates multiplying (-a) by itself b times, while the latter expression indicates multiplying a by itself b times, with a coefficient of -1.
 

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