Practical knowledges in engineering

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The discussion revolves around the necessity of practical knowledge in engineering compared to theoretical knowledge. Participants explore whether one can succeed in engineering careers with only theoretical understanding and the role of practical experience in hiring decisions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether practical knowledge is necessary for engineering roles, asking if one can be hired based solely on theoretical knowledge.
  • Others argue that communication skills and the ability to convey theoretical ideas are valuable and sought after by employers.
  • It is suggested that engineering is fundamentally applied physics, implying that practical knowledge is essential for applying theoretical concepts effectively.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of being able to derive practical solutions from theoretical principles, highlighting the value of both practical experience and theoretical understanding.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of succeeding in engineering without a strong foundation in math and science, with a suggestion that hard work and practice are crucial for success.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the idea of becoming a theoretical engineer without practical experience, suggesting that memorizing formulas alone is insufficient.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the sufficiency of theoretical knowledge alone for engineering careers, with multiple competing views regarding the balance between practical and theoretical knowledge. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are references to personal experiences and educational backgrounds that may influence perspectives on the necessity of practical knowledge. Some assumptions about the relationship between theoretical knowledge and employability are not fully explored.

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Individuals considering a career in engineering, educators in engineering disciplines, and those interested in the balance of practical versus theoretical knowledge in STEM fields may find this discussion relevant.

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1)Are they necessary?
2)Can you live without them and get hired for theoretical knowledges only?For example i had a cousin who graduated something that has to do with mines and he learned a discipline called hidraulics.I have his book.He knew practical knowledges and theoretical and was a subengineer.
3)Can you be a theoretical engineer without practice?
4)I mean will someone hire you if you know ohm's law,kirchoff's law,etc?
 
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Being able to successfully communicate ideas to others is a practical and sought after skill among employers. So yes.

Theoretical ideas are also in demand if you have the ability to communicate them.
 
Engineering is essentially applied physics, and engineers typically apply knowledge and skills to practical applications.

Of course, one can apply theory in the development of methods or new systems/applications. Knowing how to apply theory requires some practical knowledge.

alex77 said:
4)I mean will someone hire you if you know ohm's law,kirchoff's law,etc?
Ohm's and Kirchhoff's laws are rather basic. I would expect a high school student to know them.
 
Theoretical knowledge is great if you can take a problem back to first principles and come up with a practical solution. On the other hand I've known "practical men" who understand solutions because they've seen, or heard of, a similar problem before. The best graduate trainees are the ones who can listen to older more experienced men and learn from their experience, the best old handlers are the ones that can listen to the graduate trainees and appreciate their theoretical knowledge. Hire graduates but put them alongside experience.
 
In another thread you indicate that you attended a "technical high school" where playing video games was the primary activity, and here you are asking about becoming a "theoretician" but don't have much math or science background. I don't get what you are after. Are you hoping that you can memorize a few formulas and get a good job without ever putting anything into practice (so you have more time to play video games)? The answer is no to both-- you won't be much of an engineer and you are unlikely to be hired anywhere.

Let me break it to you once and for all: succeeding in science and engineering takes hard work, drive, hard work, discipline, hard work, and lots of practice. I hope you decide to go for it.
 
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marcusl said:
Let me break it to you once and for all: succeeding in science and engineering takes hard work, drive, hard work, discipline, hard work, and lots of practice. I hope you decide to go for it.

Don't forget even more hard work after practice!
 
I didn't want to sound discouraging :oldbiggrin:
 
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