Pressure, Volume and Temp Change WORK done?

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The discussion centers on calculating the work done on an ideal gas during a process represented on a P-V diagram. The initial conditions include 9.95 moles of gas at a pressure of 0.922 atm and a volume of 679 L, leading to an initial temperature of 767 K. The user calculated the work done as the sum of the area of a rectangle and a triangle under the curve, yielding 41.5 kJ. However, the user was informed that the sign of the work must be considered, indicating a misunderstanding in the interpretation of work done on the system.

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  • Understanding of the Ideal Gas Law (PV = nRT)
  • Knowledge of P-V diagrams and area calculations
  • Familiarity with thermodynamic work concepts
  • Basic proficiency in unit conversions (e.g., atm to Pa, L to m³)
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  • Review the concept of work in thermodynamics, specifically the sign convention for work done on a system.
  • Study the calculation of areas under curves in P-V diagrams for various processes.
  • Learn about the implications of heating an ideal gas and how it affects pressure and volume.
  • Explore the relationship between temperature, pressure, and volume changes in ideal gases using the Ideal Gas Law.
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This discussion is beneficial for students and professionals in thermodynamics, particularly those studying ideal gas behavior, as well as engineers and physicists involved in energy calculations and system work analysis.

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Pressure, Volume and Temp Change...WORK done?

n = 9.95 moles of an ideal gas are slowly heated from initial pressure P1 = .922 atm and initial volume V1 = 679 L to final pressure Pf = 1.16 atm and final volume Vf = 1073 L. Find T1, the initial temperature of the gas. If the plot of this process on a P-V diagram is a straight line, find W, the work done on the system.

P1 = .922 atm x 1.013 x 10^5 Pa = 93398.6 Pa
V1 = 679 L / 1000 = .679 m^3

PV = nRT
(93398.6)(.679) = (9.95)(8.314)(T)
T = 767 K

For the Work done I would just need to find the area under the curve for the P-V diagram...correct? Well that is what I did and my answer is considered wrong and I cannot understand why...

When V = .679 m^3, P = 93398.6 Pa. And when V = 1.073 m^3, P = 117508 Pa. The area of the rectangle under the curve is (1.073 - .679) x 93398.6 = 36799.0484 J. The area of the triangle under the curve is 1/2bh = (.5)(1.073-.679)(117508 - 93398.6) = 4749.5518 J

So W SHOULD = 36799.0484 + 4749.5518 = 41548.6002 J = 41.5 kJ...but this is considered WRONG...Can someone please advise what I am doing wrong?? Very frustrated here!
 
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Check the sign of work. The work done on the system was asked.

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