Probability of Finding System in a State Given a Particular Basis

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The discussion revolves around the probability of finding a quantum system in a particular state given its representation in a specific basis. The original poster presents the components of two states, |ω1> and |ω2>, in terms of basis vectors |δ1>, |δ2>, and |δ3>, and seeks to understand how to calculate the probability of measuring the system in state |ω2> when it is in state |ω1>.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion about how to start the problem and relates it to previous experiences with matrices and eigenvalues. Some participants suggest expressing |ω1> and |ω2> in terms of the basis vectors and identify coefficients for further calculations. Others question the strategy of using inner products to find probabilities and whether the states are eigenstates.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem and discussing the validity of the calculations presented. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the states and their representation in the basis, but there is no explicit consensus on the overall approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a lack of familiarity with the problem type, which may affect their understanding of the concepts involved. There is also a mention of normalization and the assumption that the states are normalized, which is a relevant consideration in quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement


Note: I am going to use |a> <a| to denote ket and bra vectors

The components of the state of a system| ω1> in some basis |δ1>, |δ2>, |δ3> are given by
<δ1|ω1> = i/sqrt(3), <δ2|ω1> = sqrt(2/3), <δ3|ω1> = 0

Find the probability of finding the system in the state |ω2> whose components in the same basis are
<δ1|ω2> = (1+i)/sqrt(3), <δ2|ω2> = sqrt(1/6), <δ3|ω2> = sqrt(1/6)

Homework Equations


P(δn)= |<δn|ω2>|^2/(<ω2|ω2>)


The Attempt at a Solution


I am actually rather confused just on how to start this problem. I am more familiar with the examples where I am given the matricies of observable and the components of a state function. Then I know that you have to find the eigenvectors corresponding to an eigenvalue and to use those to find the probability of an energy level.

So here we are dealing with two states being represented in a basis and I don't know how to weed through this to get any real information on either of these states or the basis.

Thank you for reading!
 
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Since |δ1>, |δ2>, |δ3> form a basis, it must be possible to express |ω1> in terms of the basis vectors. So, there exist numbers a1 ,a2, and a3 such that

|ω1> = a1|δ1> + a2|δ2> + a3|δ3>.

Can you identity the values of a1, a2, and a3?

Similarly for the state |ω2>.
 
So I am assuming to find a1 I simply perform <δ1|ω1>, and I would get a1=i/sqrt(3), and similarly a2=sqrt(2/3), a3=0, and then I could put |ω1> into column form:
(a1)
(a2)
(a3)

(that is my attempt at a column matrix).

I could do a similar thing for |ω2> to get coefficients b1=(1+i)/sqrt(3), b2=1/sqrt(6)=b3.

To calculate the probability of being in |ω2>, what I am tempted to do is now perform the operation |<ω2|ω1>|^2/<ω1|ω1>, which yields 5/9, if I calculated correctly. But I am not entirely confident in the strategy. I go back and forth with this, but I feel like the ω terms are the eigenvectors representing two different eigenvalues/states. But at the same time, I feel like I am treating ω1 as my initial state vector (like ψ(0)), and then projecting a specific state, ω2 in this case, onto ψ.

So, is the strategy seem like it is correct, or did I go fishing? Also, did anything I say in the previous paragraph resemble the reality of the situation?

Thank you!
 
Your calculation looks correct to me. I think 5/9 is the answer.

|ω1> and |ω2> are just two possible quantum states of the system. They do not need to be eigenstates of any particular operator. If the system is in state |ω1> then the probability of measuring the system to be in state |ω2> is just |<ω2|ω1>|2 assuming normalized states. The "inner product" <ω2|ω1> is similar to finding the scalar product ##\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}## of two ordinary vectors in 3D space. You can pick any orthonormal set of basis vectors ##\hat{i}##, ##\hat{j}##, ##\hat{k}##, and express ##\vec{a}## and ##\vec{b}## as

##\vec{a} = a_1\hat{i}+a_2\hat{j}+a_3\hat{k}##
##\vec{b} = b_1\hat{i}+b_2\hat{j}+b_3\hat{k}##

and find ##\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b} = a_1b_1+a_2b_2+a_3b_3##

Similarly, if we have any orthonormal basis |δ1>, |δ2> ,|δ3>,

|ω1> = a1|δ1> + a2|δ2> +a3|δ3>
|ω2> = b1|δ1> + b2|δ2> +b3|δ3>

and <ω2|ω1> = b1* a1 + b2* a2 + b3* a3
 
Much clearer now...I appreciate you clearing that up for me!
 

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