Probability Quiz: Variables X1 to X46, Expectation E(Xj)=0

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The discussion revolves around the properties of independent random variables X1 to X46, each taking values of 1 and -1 with an expected value of E(Xj)=0. Participants are tasked with finding the correlation ρ(Y,Z) where Y and Z are sums of these variables, specifically Y=X1+X2+...+Xn and Z=X1+X2+...+Xn+1 for n=46.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of covariance and variance for Y and Z, questioning the independence of Y and Z due to their shared variables. There is uncertainty about how to derive the necessary statistical properties without explicit probabilities.

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Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between Y and Z, suggesting that they may not be independent due to their dependence on the same underlying random variables. Others are exploring how to express E(YZ) and are seeking clarification on the calculations involved.

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There is a noted ambiguity regarding the probability distribution of the variables, with conflicting interpretations of the probabilities associated with the values of Xj. This may affect the calculations of expected values and variances discussed in the thread.

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the variables X1,X2,... are independents and taking values 1 and -1 and their expected value E(Xj)=0 and we have Y=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn AND Z=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn+1 find the ρ(Y,Z) for n=46

i know that ρ(Υ,Ζ)=COV(Y,Z)/(σΥ*σZ)

where σY = sqrt(varY) and σZ=sqrt(varZ) how i can find them because we don't have any sum or probability to estimate them, For the cov(Y,Z) i think tha is 0 because Xj are indepents and expected value still 0 but is says tha its not true what i am doing wrong?
 
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ParisSpart said:
the variables X1,X2,... are independents and taking values 1 and -1 and their expected value E(Xj)=0
In other words, for all i, P(Xi= -1)= 1/3, P(Xi= 0)= 1/3, and P(Xi= 0)= 1/3.
(Unless you are missing the word "is": "and their expected value is E(Xj)= 0". In that case, P(Xi= -1)= 1/2, P(Xi= 1)= 1/2.)

and we have Y=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn AND Z=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn+1 find the ρ(Y,Z) for n=46

i know that ρ(Υ,Ζ)=COV(Y,Z)/(σΥ*σZ)

where σY = sqrt(varY) and σZ=sqrt(varZ) how i can find them because we don't have any sum or probability to estimate them, For the cov(Y,Z) i think tha is 0 because Xj are indepents and expected value still 0 but is says tha its not true what i am doing wrong?
 
HallsofIvy said:
In other words, for all i, P(Xi= -1)= 1/3, P(Xi= 0)= 1/3, and P(Xi= 0)= 1/3.
(Unless you are missing the word "is": "and their expected value is E(Xj)= 0". In that case, P(Xi= -1)= 1/2, P(Xi= 1)= 1/2.)
I read it as "their expected value, E(Xj), = 0". So P(Xi= -1) = P(Xi= 1)= 1/2.
For the cov(Y,Z) i think tha is 0 because Xj are indepents
But Y and Z depend on n of the same samples, so will not be independent. On an occasion when Y turns out to be higher than normal, Z likely will be too.
 
how i can find E(YZ)=? i can't think how to find it
 
ParisSpart said:
how i can find E(YZ)=? i can't think how to find it
Write the expression for YZ in terms of the Xi (using Ʃ). The E() of a sum is the sum of the E()s.
 

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