Probability that smoke detectors work

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the probability that at least one of three smoke detectors will function during a fire, given that each has a 92% chance of working properly. The problem is framed within the context of binomial distribution.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods for calculating the probability, including direct calculation of at least one functioning detector and an alternative approach of calculating the probability of none functioning. Questions arise regarding the accuracy of calculations and the efficiency of methods used.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to verify calculations, with some participants suggesting alternative methods for efficiency. There is acknowledgment of differing answers, and participants are encouraged to share their calculations for further examination.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express concern over the potential for arithmetic errors and the efficiency of the approach, especially in scenarios with a larger number of trials.

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Homework Statement



A smoke detector has a 92% chance of functioning properly.
If there are 3 of these, what are the chances at least one of them will go off during a fire?

Homework Equations



Standard binomial distribution I believe. X~B(n, p)

The Attempt at a Solution



P(X>=1) = P(X=3)+P(X=2)+P(X=1)
When placing this into the equation I end up with ~0.996.
Can someone verify?
 
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I'm getting a different answer, you probably made a calculation error in there.

Consider: if you want to calculate the probability of at least one detector going off, it's easier to work 'the other way round'. You can calculate the probability that none of the smoke detectors will go off, and then apply that figure in a certain way to solve the problem. How exactly to do that is something I'll leave up to you to figure out for the moment! It's less work than what you did, in any case.

I believe you should arrive at an exact answer of 0.999488. Of course, take care in rounding off that figure to the correct number of decimals!
 
What is the probability that one of them will not go off? What is the probability that none of them will go off? What is the probability that that will not happen?
 
Brinx said:
I'm getting a different answer, you probably made a calculation error in there.

Are you saying I used correct procedure but made some arithmatic error?
 
TSN79 said:
Are you saying I used correct procedure but made some arithmatic error?

Yes, I think so. When I calculate those separate chances (P(X=1) + P(X=2) + P(X=3)) I still arrive at the answer I mentioned. Could you post your calculations here? We'll be able to point out where things go wrong.
 
Thx, I got the answer right now. Don't really know what I did wrong the first time...
 
TSN79 said:
Thx, I got the answer right now. Don't really know what I did wrong the first time...

You're doing it in an inefficient way. Fine for 3 trials, but what if you're given 100 trials (say)? Will you manually add 100 terms?

Consider HallsofIvy's comment. That's the standard way to approach this sort of problem, saves a lot of work.
 

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