Probability Theory: Simultaneous picks

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The discussion centers on understanding the probability of selecting balls of the same color in both successive and simultaneous picks. The user correctly identifies that the method of counting probabilities remains consistent regardless of the picking method. Specifically, the probability calculation for simultaneous picks is represented as (20*19 + 10*9) / (30*29), confirming that the underlying mathematics does not change. This highlights the importance of grasping the fundamental principles of probability theory in different contexts.

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Hi all, I have an issue understanding the concepts pertaining to the following problem, assistance is greatly appreciated.
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I understand the "flow" of the problem; first find the probability of obtaining balls of the same colour, then use the geometric distribution. However, I don't understand why the method of counting probabilities doesn't change between the cases of successive picks, and simultaneous picks.

The way I always understood outcome-counting for successive picks (number of ways of picking 2 red balls w/o replacement for instance) was that the first pick had 20 available options, the second 19. Then divide by 2 to account for the fact that we don't bother with order, so
$$\frac{20\times 19}{2} = {20\choose2}$$
The case of simultaneous picks doesn't come as intuitively to me, I have tried to find ways to understand it (like "how many ways can i touch 20 red balls with my 2 hands") but every time it makes sense, it doesn't.

Could anyone assist? Many thanks!

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"Simultaneous picks" doesn't change the math. Your chance of same color remains (20*19+10*9)/(30*29).
 

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