Probability Theory: Simultaneous picks

In summary, the conversation is about a problem involving picking balls of the same color and using the geometric distribution. The person is struggling to understand the method of counting probabilities for successive and simultaneous picks. They are looking for assistance in understanding the concept. The solution involves using the same math for both cases, resulting in a chance of obtaining balls of the same color of (20*19+10*9)/(30*29).
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Hi all, I have an issue understanding the concepts pertaining to the following problem, assistance is greatly appreciated.
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I understand the "flow" of the problem; first find the probability of obtaining balls of the same colour, then use the geometric distribution. However, I don't understand why the method of counting probabilities doesn't change between the cases of successive picks, and simultaneous picks.

The way I always understood outcome-counting for successive picks (number of ways of picking 2 red balls w/o replacement for instance) was that the first pick had 20 available options, the second 19. Then divide by 2 to account for the fact that we don't bother with order, so
$$\frac{20\times 19}{2} = {20\choose2}$$
The case of simultaneous picks doesn't come as intuitively to me, I have tried to find ways to understand it (like "how many ways can i touch 20 red balls with my 2 hands") but every time it makes sense, it doesn't.

Could anyone assist? Many thanks!

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"Simultaneous picks" doesn't change the math. Your chance of same color remains (20*19+10*9)/(30*29).
 

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