Problem involving Coulombs Law; suspended masses

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The discussion centers on deriving the expression for the charge q of two point particles suspended by threads at an angle θ, using Coulomb's Law and the principles of force equilibrium. The correct formula is established as q = 2Lsin(θ)√(mg/k)tan(θ). The participants emphasize the importance of considering both horizontal and vertical components of forces, particularly the tension in the threads, to arrive at the correct solution. The initial confusion regarding the negative sign in the equation is resolved by recognizing the significance of vector directions in force analysis.

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Two point particles, each of mass m and charge q are suspended from a common point by threads of length L. Each thread makes an angle [tex]\theta[/tex] with the vertical. (I attached a diagram to help).

I must show that
[tex]q=2L\sin\theta\sqrt{\frac{mg}{k}\tan\theta}[/tex]

I start out by writing the force sum in the coordinate system, and then I solve for q:

[tex]0=mg+k\frac{q^2}{R^2}[/tex]

[tex]=mg+k\frac{q^2}{4L^2\sin^2\theta}[/tex]

[tex]q^2=-4L^2\sin^2\theta\frac{mg}{k}[/tex]

I'm confused by the negative sign, if I ignore it I get:

[tex]q=2L\sin\theta\sqrt{\frac{mg}{k}}[/tex]

The [tex]\tan\theta[/tex] is missing in my solution.
 

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adkinje said:
I start out by writing the force sum in the coordinate system, and then I solve for q:

[tex]0=mg+k\frac{q^2}{R^2}[/tex]
Forces are vectors--direction matters. Hint: Consider the horizontal and vertical components of the forces.

Don't forget the tension force exerted by the thread.
 
Doc Al said:
Forces are vectors--direction matters. Hint: Consider the horizontal and vertical components of the forces.

Don't forget the tension force exerted by the thread.


lol, DUH the tension! I can't believe I left that one out. I pulled it togther and obtained the given expression. Thanks for your help.
 

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