Problem involving ratios to find the length of a shadow

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The discussion centers on the geometric relationship between the shadow of a vertical pillar in Alexandria and the distance to Syene during the summer solstice, both represented by a 1-to-8 ratio. The original poster concluded that if the Earth were smaller, the shadow would be shorter due to the reduced distance between Alexandria and Syene. Participants clarified that Syene is located on the Tropic of Cancer, which affects the shadow's length at noon. The geometric principles of ratios and their implications on shadow lengths are critical to understanding this problem.

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Homework Statement


The shadow cast by a vertical pillar in Alexandria at noon during the summer solstice is found to be 1/8 the height of the pillar. The distance between Alexandria and Syene is 1/8 the Earth's radius. Is there a geometric connection between these two 1-to-8 ratios?

I already solved this problem. However, there is another part of the problem:

If Earth were smaller than it is, would the shadow of the vertical pillar in Alexandria have been longer or shorter at noon during the summer solstice?

Homework Equations


Just a ratio I used to solve the first part.

Pole shadow/Pole height = Alexandria and Syene distance / Earth radius

The Attempt at a Solution



I said the shadow would grow shorter. Since the Earth would be smaller, the distance between Alexandria and Syene would also be smaller. And due to it being a ratio, this would also effect the shadow.

However, I am really not certain of my answer and do not know how I could verify it or if I am correct.
 
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overhorizon said:

Homework Statement


The shadow cast by a vertical pillar in Alexandria at noon during the summer solstice is found to be 1/8 the height of the pillar. The distance between Alexandria and Syene is 1/8 the Earth's radius. Is there a geometric connection between these two 1-to-8 ratios?

I already solved this problem. However, there is another part of the problem:

If Earth were smaller than it is, would the shadow of the vertical pillar in Alexandria have been longer or shorter at noon during the summer solstice?

Homework Equations


Just a ratio I used to solve the first part.

Pole shadow/Pole height = Alexandria and Syene distance / Earth radius

The Attempt at a Solution



I said the shadow would grow shorter. Since the Earth would be smaller, the distance between Alexandria and Syene would also be smaller. And due to it being a ratio, this would also effect the shadow.

However, I am really not certain of my answer and do not know how I could verify it or if I am correct.


You forgot to tell us what Syene has to do with the problem. Is there a shadow there? But yes, on a smaller planet Alexandria would be closer to the equator and would have a smaller shadow.

EDIT: Oops I meant the tropic not the equator. Obviously Syene is on the tropic of cancer south of Alexandria. So there is no shadow there right?
 

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