Problem of quadratic equation with two variables

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The discussion revolves around a quadratic equation with two variables, specifically the expression 3x² + 2αxy + 2y² + 2ax - 4y + 1, and the condition for it to be factored into linear components. Participants are tasked with proving a relationship involving α and another quadratic equation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest rearranging the equation in terms of y and exploring the discriminant to find conditions for factorability. There are discussions about the implications of rearranging the equation with respect to x versus y, and the need to ensure the discriminant is factorable.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the rearrangement of terms and the importance of the discriminant in determining the nature of the roots. There is an acknowledgment of different approaches being explored, particularly the focus on how the equation is manipulated.

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Participants are working under the constraint of not providing complete solutions, focusing instead on hints and guidance to navigate the problem. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the variables and the conditions for the quadratic to have real roots.

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If 3x2+2αxy+2y2+2ax-4y+1 can be resolved into two linear factors, prove that α is the root of the equation x2+ 4ax+2a2+6=0.

please don't solve the problem
just hint is expected.
 
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Sumedh said:
please don't solve the problem
just hint is expected.

Try re-arranging as (...)y2 + (...)y + C
and proceed to solve that binomial
 
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then what about 3x2 and 2ax
 
Sumedh said:
then what about 3x2 and 2ax

They will be within the term C

You re-arrange it as:

(...)y2 + (...)y + (...)
 
after arranging the original eq. with respect to x
i got this (...)x2 +(...)x+c
by finding its discriminant and equating it to zero
on solving i got
α^2 y^2+a^2+2aαy =-6y^2-3+12y [α means alpha]
α^2 y^2+a^2+2aαy -9 (y-3)^2
after equating what should i do?

could you please tell me the concept for solving this?
 
Sumedh said:
after arranging the original eq. with respect to x
i got this (...)x2 +(...)x+c
by finding its discriminant and equating it to zero
on solving i got

...etc...

after equating what should i do?

You are headed in the right direction. :redface: So, for the original equation to have two real roots, the square root of the discriminant must exist. That means, the discriminant is factorable as the product of two identical terms. To find what these terms are, you (as always) need to solve the binomial of that discriminant. And continue ...

Now, I recommended that you re-arrange the expression as(...)y2 + (...)y + (...)

But you instead re-arranged it as (...)x2 + (...)x + (...)
which gives the discriminant as a function of y

If you do it your way, you may not end up with the function of x that the question asks you to show. You will end up with a function of y. Equally valid, but not what the question is seeking.
 
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thank you very much i got it:smile:
 

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