Problem using L'Hospiital's Rule (indeterminate form: INF - INF)

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The problem involves evaluating the limit as x approaches infinity of the expression (sqrt(x^2+x) - x), which presents an indeterminate form of infinity minus infinity. The discussion centers around methods to resolve this form using techniques such as rationalization and L'Hôpital's Rule.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods to manipulate the expression, including rationalizing the numerator and factoring out terms. Some suggest multiplying by a conjugate, while others propose dividing by x to simplify the limit. There is also mention of using L'Hôpital's Rule after appropriate transformations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing different approaches and confirming the validity of each other's suggestions. There is a sense of collaboration as one participant expresses appreciation for the shared ideas and attempts various methods discussed.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, specifically the indeterminate form and the need for algebraic manipulation to apply L'Hôpital's Rule effectively. There is an emphasis on exploring different interpretations of the limit expression.

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[tex]\stackrel{lim}{x\rightarrow\infty}(\sqrt{x^2+x} - x)[/tex]

I have no idea how to do this. In my book, it says I want to convert [tex]\infty - \infty[/tex] forms into a quotient by getting a common denominator, rationalization or by factoring.
 
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I would say you want to multiply by (sqrt(x^2+x)+x)/(sqrt(x^2+x)+x). I.e. rationalize.
 
Many, many things would work, really. Multiplying and dividing by 1/x, for example.

Why 1/x? Well, it might be more clear if you think of it as "factoring out an x" -- then you just move the x to be a 1/x in the denominator so that you can use L'hôpitals.
 
how about doing this :

y = sqrt(x^2 + x) - x

= sqrt(x ( x + 1) ) - x

= sqrt(x) * sqrt(x+1) - x

The use the product rule for term 1, combined with chain rule.

or
y = sqrt(x^2 + x) - x

= 1/x(sqrt(x^2 + x) - x)
= 1/x *sqrt(x^2 + x) - 1
= sqrt( (1/x)^2 ) * sqrt ( x^2 + x) - 1
= sqrt( (1/x)^2 ( x^2 + x) ) - 1
= sqrt( 1 + 1/x ) - 1

the use l'hopital rule.
 
Dick said:
I would say you want to multiply by (sqrt(x^2+x)+x)/(sqrt(x^2+x)+x). I.e. rationalize.
^do that

[tex](\sqrt{x^2+x}-x).\frac{(\sqrt{x^2+x}+x)}{(\sqrt{x^2+x}+x)} = \frac{1}{\frac{x}{x}\sqrt{1+\frac{1}{x^2}}+1}[/tex]
 
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I tried out all your suggestions. This is really cool. Thx everyone.
 

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