Problem with Centripetal velocity on a banked corner

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The discussion centers on calculating the centripetal velocity of a bobsled navigating a banked turn with a radius of 25 meters and a bank angle of 40 degrees, assuming no friction. The correct maximum velocity (vmax) for this scenario is determined to be approximately 14.3 m/s. The participant expresses frustration with an instructor's incorrect calculations and lack of clarity in their solution. The participant's own calculations align closely with the expected results, indicating potential errors in the instructor's methodology.

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  • Understanding of centripetal acceleration and its formula (v²/R)
  • Familiarity with Newton's second law (F=ma)
  • Knowledge of static friction and its calculation (µs * N)
  • Basic trigonometry to analyze banked curves
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first of all thanks for reading and especially thank you to people who helped with my previous question here https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...on-change-with-the-angle.798572/#post-5019349

Unfortunately i am having more problems with this instructor insisting she is right and refusing to elaborate so i am here again to ask how her solution here is correct

Example #4:
A bobsled goes into a turn (r=25m) with an banked angle of 40 degrees. Assuming no friction (pretty good assumption), a) what is the velocity of the bobslead b) what happens if the bobsled comes into the same turn above this speed? c) what happens if the bobsled comes into the same turn below this speed?


bobsled_answer.jpg


Homework Equations


F=ma
centripetal acceleration = v2/R
Force of static friction = µs * N

The Attempt at a Solution


I have found through another diagram
carbank.gif


however i am unfamiliar with how to get
that vmax from the x and y and would love some help there deriving it.

either way though using that vmax for frictionless i get 14.3ms. I think the answer she gets is just not using the right order of operations
 
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It's not clear to me which is your solution and which your teacher's. The handwritten one is fine except for the numerical calculation at the end. It should produce 14.33, or thereabouts.
 
the hand written is hers, and yeah i thought so as well. very annoying taking a course with so many errors
 

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