Problem with numerator in a series expansion

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to a series expansion, specifically focusing on the recurrence relation for coefficients in the expansion. Participants are exploring how to determine the proper form of the numerator in the context of the recurrence relation provided.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the recurrence relation and the need for the numerator to vanish at certain points to determine possible values of λ. There are questions about how to truncate the series and the implications of different termination points on the modes of oscillation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the importance of the numerator's behavior in the recurrence relation. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify assumptions and interpretations regarding the series expansion and its implications for different values of λ.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that part (d) of the problem only requires the recurrence relation, and there is a mention of a subsequent part (e) that raises additional questions about series truncation and behavior at specific points.

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Homework Statement


The problem I am having has to do with part (d) in the picture which I have attached. I have managed to get as far as to determine that the coefficients in the series expansion have the recurrence relation shown below in part (2). From this I think that I have been able to determine that the general form of the coefficients must what is shown in part (3) below. The issue is I am unsure of how to get the proper form of the numerator. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks!


Homework Equations


[itex]a_{n+2}=\frac{n(n+3)-\lambda}{R^{2}(n+2)(n+3)}[/itex] where [itex]a_{o}=1[/itex]

[itex]λ=\frac{2m^{2}}{\omega_{o}^{2}}[/itex] where m is the separation constant

The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]a_{2n}=\frac{something}{(R^{2})^{n}(2n+1)!}[/itex]
 

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Airsteve0 said:

Homework Statement


The problem I am having has to do with part (d) in the picture which I have attached. I have managed to get as far as to determine that the coefficients in the series expansion have the recurrence relation shown below in part (2). From this I think that I have been able to determine that the general form of the coefficients must what is shown in part (3) below. The issue is I am unsure of how to get the proper form of the numerator. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, thanks!


Homework Equations


[itex]a_{n+2}=\frac{n(n+3)-\lambda}{R^{2}(n+2)(n+3)}[/itex] where [itex]a_{o}=1[/itex]

[itex]λ=\frac{2m^{2}}{\omega_{o}^{2}}[/itex] where m is the separation constant

The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]a_{2n}=\frac{something}{(R^{2})^{n}(2n+1)!}[/itex]
Let's a least make the image more accessible.
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Much better, so any ideas?
 
Part (d) only asks for the recurrence relation. You don't need to get a closed form for an.
 
ugh now I feel dumb. Guess I should have read it most closely. Thanks though. I don't suppose you have any ideas about part (e). I realize that if r=R then the series is simply an expansion of terms that go to infinity but I am unsure of how I would truncate the series.
 
You need the numerator in the recurrence relation to vanish at some point so that all the subsequent coefficients will be 0. That requirement tells you the possible values of λ.
 
is there a way to determine at what specific point it should vanish?
 
Nope, because you're obtaining a family of solutions. If the series terminates after one term, that's one mode of oscillation. If it terminates after two terms, that's another mode of oscillations, and so on.
 
Oh ok, I will work at this and see what I can do. Thank you for your help!
 

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