Problem with solving an equation

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The problem involves determining the dimensions of an open-top box created from a square of 50x50 units by cutting away corner squares of size x^2. The goal is to derive a formula X(v) that provides the value of x needed to achieve a specified volume.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the volume function V(x) = x(50-2x)^2 and the challenges in isolating x to solve for a given volume v. There are attempts to manipulate the equation and use software like Maple for assistance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the volume equation and its transformation into a cubic form. There is acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the formulation of the problem, with one participant indicating a shift in approach towards using tables to find the desired volume instead of deriving a direct formula.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints regarding the valid range for x, which is from 0 to 25, and express uncertainty about how to incorporate this range into their calculations.

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Homework Statement


I have a square 50x50 units. I want to make a pool(box without a lid), and then cut away the corners. The "corner-square" is x^2.
What I want is a formula X(v) that gives me the x value needed to get a fixed volume.


Homework Equations


The V(x) function is base x height, x(50-2x)^2. But i have problems isolating x based on this formula.



The Attempt at a Solution


If i try solving it in Maple I get:
25/2 + 1/2sqrt(625-2v) and 25/2 - 1/2sqrt(625-2v)
but this makes no sense to me.

I've calculated the max volume at x=25/3 to be 250000/27, and the function is only valid from x=0..25.

I guess the answers Maple gives me is because it does not know og my 0..25 range, but I don't know how to make that part of the calculation.

If the problem is unclear, please say so and I will try to explain better.
 
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If each side is 50 and you "cut away" x^2 from each corner then you base will have sides of length 50- 2x. The base will have area (50- 2x)^2 and the box will have height x. The volume is x(50- 2x)^2.

Now, what is it you specifically want to do? Solve x(50- 2x)^2= v for any v? Multiplying out the left side gives 4x^3- 200x^2+ 2500x= v or the cubic equation 4x^2- 200x^2+ 2500x- v= 0. Your "Maple" solution looks like a quadratic formula- you may have left out an "x".
 
Thanks for answering!
What I want is a function that gives me the x value needed to make a box with a cirtain volume.

I will check my equations in Maple tonight, when I get back from work.
 
I did leave out an x, but still did not get a sensible answer. But when I read the problem text once more a saw that I was not supposed to make a formula, but use the formula V=x(50-2x)^2 and use tables to narrow down to the volume you needed.

So the problem is solved that way and that I figuerd out :P

Thanks for the help!
 

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